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    Re: How America destroyed the Gospel

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvira View Post
    You won't need medicine under God's rule...

    "And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.” Revelation 21:4
    Ehhh... life and death kind of need each other to exist.
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    Re: How America destroyed the Gospel

    Quote Originally Posted by Logician Man View Post
    You lost all credibility ( again) once you tried, and failed miserably (again), to try to tell me what I think, and my motives and reasons for thinking as I do. You just lost the argument AND the point, as putting YOUR thoughts and words in 'OTHERS' mouths is cleary way above your pay scale.
    And you have never had any credibility - you just proved my point. You told me what you thought, I didn't tell you. Don't bother asking me questions you don't want to hear the answer to, you weren't part of this conversation anyway.
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    Re: How America destroyed the Gospel

    Quote Originally Posted by Logician Man View Post
    Hi E. From my POV, not really. From my POV that is precisely what is going on now. I was basically given a Holy text at a very young age ( long before the age of accountability ), and certainly long before I was educated enough to consider/analyze/evaluate the data critically, and was told ( paraphrasing) "Take this book, read it, accept it without questioning it's content, or burn in hell forever after you die for not believing it. God making an actual appearance would remove a lot, if not all doubt he/she/it actually exists, and would provide me with answers that can't be answered. And for me,personally, I'm one that doesn't believe 'any' holy text is definitive proof that Holy text is actual truth, and I don't think I'm on an island with that thought process.
    Well yeah, that's basically what happened to me, too, living in the south...but I learned better...God does not operate that way...I learned, through deep down study of the Bible, He wants us to come to Him, draw close to Him, and then He will draw close to us but we also have some work to do...

    “Draw close to God, and he will draw close to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you indecisive ones.” James 4:8
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    Re: How America destroyed the Gospel

    Quote Originally Posted by devildavid View Post
    The problem is that god refuses to communicate clearly what he deems a vital message. If he has the ability to do this we can't be blamed for not receiving a vague, indirect message. And why wasn't this message available at the very beginning of human civilization? Why is the true message one which only came out at a certain point in human history when so many had already lived and died without receiving this particular message? The historical nature of gods message seems to point to god not being interested in conveying one clear message to all of humanity for all time.
    The Bible tells us that it is Satan who distorts things, not God...
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    Re: How America destroyed the Gospel

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Ehhh... life and death kind of need each other to exist.
    That was not God's purpose in the beginning...if Adam and Eve had not disobeyed, they would still be here today...only through disobedience, they received death...
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    Re: How America destroyed the Gospel

    Quote Originally Posted by it's just me View Post
    And you have never had any credibility - you just proved my point. You told me what you thought, I didn't tell you. Don't bother asking me questions you don't want to hear the answer to, you weren't part of this conversation anyway.
    Anyone can look at your post above and see for themselves you clearly tried, and failed miserably ( again ), to attempt to tell me why I think/do this or that. You're not qualified to go there, and there is even a biblical verse that indeed states what your attempting to do is a sin. Just because I ask you, or anyone, a question doesn't empower you to do a rather shoddy impersonation of a 'mind reader.' Furthermore, you're the worse ambassador for the teachings of Christ in this forum. Plenty of other DP members have noted this fact.

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    Re: How America destroyed the Gospel

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvira View Post
    That was not God's purpose in the beginning...if Adam and Eve had not disobeyed, they would still be here today...only through disobedience, they received death...
    Shouldn’t mankind be allowed to decide its own destiny? If not then why did god give us free will?

    Or did god never intend to let humankind have free will?
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    Re: How America destroyed the Gospel

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Shouldn’t mankind be allowed to decide its own destiny? If not then why did god give us free will?

    Or did god never intend to have humankind have free will?
    So, living forever is now considered a lack of free will...I think I've heard it all...
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    Re: How America destroyed the Gospel

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvira View Post
    That is not what I said...there are people who do not care about God...He can read their hearts and He knows their innermost thoughts/feelings...He forces no one to serve Him...
    since rival religions and Christian sects exist thee are also people who care a lot about god and at best some of you must have no idea what god actually wants and at worse you all created gods instead of the other way around

    why would a loving god set that up rather then just tell every one directly about itself leaving every one to make a fee and informed decision on how they want to respond

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    Re: How America destroyed the Gospel

    Quote Originally Posted by Logician Man View Post
    Anyone can look at your post above and see for themselves you clearly tried, and failed miserably ( again ), to attempt to tell me why I think/do this or that. You're not qualified to go there, and there is even a biblical verse that indeed states what your attempting to do is a sin. Just because I ask you, or anyone, a question doesn't empower you to do a rather shoddy impersonation of a 'mind reader.' Furthermore, you're the worse ambassador for the teachings of Christ in this forum. Plenty of other DP members have noted this fact.
    Anyone can look at your windbaggery and see that your motive is to cause trouble. Get lost.
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