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America, Western Europe in Desperate Need of a Religious Awakening.

Tanngrisnir said:
It is in the self-interest of every rational, sober adult to oppose and remove from power fundamentalists and all other fake/pretend Christians.
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Good to see someone admit there are fake/pretend Christians instead of lumping them altogether, like some people do...
 
Mashmont said:
The godless make the choice to bring destruction upon themselves. Blaming other entities is pointless. It's like blaming gravity if you fall.
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Except we don't. Who was to blame for most wars in the history of humanity? Right, religions and religious leaders (kings, queens, mullah's, etc. etc. etc. etc.). Since the dawn of humanity religions have caused more wars than anything on this planet.

So no, the atheists do not do destruction, that is a religious concept.

And we are not blaming magic creatures, we are blaming intolerant religions and part of their followers. Not going to blame all religious people for the acts of a minority of extremists.
 
Mashmont said:
Nothing unless you want an empty miserable life.
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:lamo

Hilarious Mashmont, total nonsense too but hey you gave it the good kindergarten try I see.

Another ridiculous comment heading right into the

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RAMOSS said:
Can you show it wasn't Hawaii? Let's see you try.
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Actually in the 50's / 60's Hawaii was a corrupt place.
People, mostly Japanese claimed birth there for citizenship, and were issued a short form, like Obama has.
You have to be born there to get a long form.
The one he posted online does not exist in real life, nobody has even seen it.
It exists in cyberspace, and has been proven to do so by lots of different people,
Something even you can do if you are familiar with AI, the program used to create it.

He spent millions of taxpayer money to keep anyone from actually seeing it.
And to this day, nobody has seen it.
People and organizations spent lots and lots of money trying to get this into court,
But Obamas lawyers had it thrown out on technicalities every time.
There are also too many other things in his life that point to corruption.
His SSI number for example.



This has quieted down, and I can see why.
It is an embarrassment to the US.
 
Yasureoktoo said:
Actually in the 50's / 60's Hawaii was a corrupt place.
People, mostly Japanese claimed birth there for citizenship, and were issued a short form, like Obama has.
You have to be born there to get a long form.
The one he posted online does not exist in real life, nobody has even seen it.
It exists in cyberspace, and has been proven to do so by lots of different people,
Something even you can do if you are familiar with AI, the program used to create it.

He spent millions of taxpayer money to keep anyone from actually seeing it.
And to this day, nobody has seen it.
People and organizations spent lots and lots of money trying to get this into court,
But Obamas lawyers had it thrown out on technicalities every time.
There are also too many other things in his life that point to corruption.
His SSI number for example.



This has quieted down, and I can see why.
It is an embarrassment to the US.
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Your claims do not line up with the evidence.
 
RAMOSS said:
Your claims do not line up with the evidence.
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And what evidence are you imagining.

I followed this when it was going strong,
And yes every time it was thrown out of court.
Costing his accusers millions, but they cannot fight city hall.

I remember one of the arguments by the government was the accusers could not come up with an expert to present this new program, Adobi illustrator. This argument caused the case to be tossed a couple times, and the accusers had to start all over.

If Obama had nothing to hide all he had to do was tell the people to go to Hawaii and look at it, and saved the taxpayers millions of dollars.

Please tell me what evidence you are hiding.
 
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Yasureoktoo said:
And what evidence are you imagining.

I followed this when it was going strong,
And yes every time it was thrown out of court.

If Obama had nothing to hide all he had to do was tell the people to go to Hawaii and look at it, and saved the taxpayers millions of dollars.

Please tell me what evidence you are hiding.
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You certainly are not making your case.
 
RAMOSS said:
You certainly are not making your case.
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Apparently I did make my case.

You claimed you had evidence, and are not showing it.

The reality is that there is no such evidence to support his story.
A story that was helped by. lots of government people


Now I pointed out lots of people took his document apart.
You can google, " Obamas birth cert fake" and hit videos.
There are dozens of people familiar with the program that take it apart in front of your eyes.
Look at a few of them, or you could shut your eyes and mind, and not look at all..
BTW, You need the program that made it, to take it apart.

Also google his SSI number
 
Mashmont said:
Every atheist country, city, state, is a sewer.
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Utter nonsense, where do you come up with that kind of nonsense? Is your crystal ball an etch a sketch ball that never tells the truth/facts?
 
Yasureoktoo said:
Apparently I did make my case.

You claimed you had evidence, and are not showing it.

The reality is that there is no such evidence to support his story.
A story that was helped by. lots of government people


Now I pointed out lots of people took his document apart.
You can google, " Obamas birth cert fake" and hit videos.
There are dozens of people familiar with the program that take it apart in front of your eyes.
Look at a few of them, or you could shut your eyes and mind, and not look at all..
BTW, You need the program that made it, to take it apart.

Also google his SSI number
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Those are PRATTS.
 
Mashmont said:
I've always wondered what a "Christian extremist" was. Is that someone who loves too much? Or has too much compassion? Or treats people too well? Or is too much like Jesus?
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If only more Christians, including yourself, really were like Jesus, this world would be a much better place. Too bad that is not the case. Nor, as you well know, are Christian extremists like that. Just like Muslim extremists, Christian extremists try to force others to live by their rules, their tenets, pushing for laws, rallying support around making "others" the enemies, who must be suppressed, or they will bring doom and gloom (natural disasters, plagues, meteor strikes, etc.) down upon us all.
 
Yasureoktoo said:
Actually in the 50's / 60's Hawaii was a corrupt place.
People, mostly Japanese claimed birth there for citizenship, and were issued a short form, like Obama has.
You have to be born there to get a long form.
The one he posted online does not exist in real life, nobody has even seen it.
It exists in cyberspace, and has been proven to do so by lots of different people,
Something even you can do if you are familiar with AI, the program used to create it.

He spent millions of taxpayer money to keep anyone from actually seeing it.
And to this day, nobody has seen it.
People and organizations spent lots and lots of money trying to get this into court,
But Obamas lawyers had it thrown out on technicalities every time.
There are also too many other things in his life that point to corruption.
His SSI number for example.



This has quieted down, and I can see why.
It is an embarrassment to the US.
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Plenty of people have, not everyone needs to.

https://health.hawaii.gov/vitalrecords/files/2013/05/News_Release_Birth_Certificate_042711.pdf

You have no evidence to support these accusations about short forms being given in Hawaii to anyone born outside the US in order for them to gain citizenship.

PolitiFact | Obama's birth certificate: Final chapter. This time we mean it!
 
Yasureoktoo said:
Apparently I did make my case.

You claimed you had evidence, and are not showing it.

The reality is that there is no such evidence to support his story.
A story that was helped by. lots of government people


Now I pointed out lots of people took his document apart.
You can google, " Obamas birth cert fake" and hit videos.
There are dozens of people familiar with the program that take it apart in front of your eyes.
Look at a few of them, or you could shut your eyes and mind, and not look at all..
BTW, You need the program that made it, to take it apart.

Also google his SSI number
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Why in the hell would you think it was okay, or even legit, to have such personal information on the internet about anyone, let alone the President? Seriously, this birther crap needs to stop.
 
Yasureoktoo said:
And what evidence are you imagining.

I followed this when it was going strong,
And yes every time it was thrown out of court.
Costing his accusers millions, but they cannot fight city hall.

I remember one of the arguments by the government was the accusers could not come up with an expert to present this new program, Adobi illustrator. This argument caused the case to be tossed a couple times, and the accusers had to start all over.

If Obama had nothing to hide all he had to do was tell the people to go to Hawaii and look at it, and saved the taxpayers millions of dollars.

Please tell me what evidence you are hiding.
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He provided it for people to look at. That is like saying "he must present his social security number for the world to see, if he is unwilling to do so, he must be lying that he has one". Insane.
 
Mashmont said:
I've always wondered what a "Christian extremist" was. Is that someone who loves too much? Or has too much compassion? Or treats people too well? Or is too much like Jesus?
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assholes who want to rule others with their faith

who see this kind of crap
"God exacts the ultimate deserved punishment, which is total annihilation"

as love and compassion and treating others well
 
Mashmont said:
If you jump out of an 11th floor window, did God kill you, or did you do it to yourself?
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did the god choose to make doing that fatal? if so you both did but the god has more responsibility for it because it chose to set things up that way
 
Mashmont said:
You excuse Islam by saying ''not all Muslims want to kill gays" while you imply most Christians do. Please be honest.
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if they would only worship some one who they believed would do ti for them like civilized bastards
 
roguenuke said:
He provided it for people to look at. That is like saying "he must present his social security number for the world to see, if he is unwilling to do so, he must be lying that he has one". Insane.
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If you don't know anything about this, why are you even commenting.
 
Manc Skipper said:
You don't believe the world is suffering enough? between a deadly pandemic and a new Bob Dylan record you want to add religious persecution.
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The Dylan thing is pretty funny.
 
blarg said:
did the god choose to make doing that fatal? if so you both did but the god has more responsibility for it because it chose to set things up that way
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Why do you atheists want to deny total responsibility for your own actions? That's a hallmark of leftwingers. I notice it in my tenants. I see it in leftwingers as a whole. It's childish.
 
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