• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

America, Western Europe in Desperate Need of a Religious Awakening.

Mashmont said:
thank you for verifying my claim that 59 Philadelphia divisions 'voted' unanimously for 0bama.
Click to expand...

Who is Obama for you?
The devil - or what?

Is it not enough that those Bible Christians are religious fanatics - are they repulsive racists as well?
 
Mashmont said:
I'm a big fan of my Catholic religion. Jesus founded it, and the truth resides there.
Click to expand...
Catholicism is why I'm the first of 6 children. But your type of Catholic is far from what I view as a good Catholic, very different from those who raised me, who are pretty incredible and tolerant, loving people.

Sent from my SM-N970U using Tapatalk
 
Yasureoktoo said:
They still don't know where Obama was born.
All we do know, is it was not Hawaii.
Click to expand...

Who are THEY? :roll:

Obama was born on August 4, 1961,[5] at Kapiolani Medical Center for Women and Children in Honolulu, Hawaii.[6][7][8] He is the only president born outside the contiguous 48 states.[9] He was born to an American mother of European descent and an African father. His mother, Ann Dunham (1942–1995), was born in Wichita, Kansas; she was mostly of English descent,[10] with some German, Irish, Scottish, Swiss, and Welsh ancestry.
Click to expand...

Barack Obama - Wikipedia
 
Mashmont said:
Or it might take deep depression and wars -- like the 16 years America experienced during 1930's and early 40's--that created a new generation of spirituality. Priests and sisters were consecrated in unprecedented numbers in the 1940s and 50s. That was the heyday of the Catholic school system in America. The 1950s was universally recognized as a great decade. The family structure was intact, we had economic prosperity, and a solid leader in Eisenhower. The word "God" appeared on our currency. We were more of a Christian nation than we'd ever been, and it was forged through hardship. Sadly, America needs such hardship again. It's a shame that human nature is such that when things go easy and well, people get complacent and toss morality out the window. They decide they don't need God. Then the cycle repeats.
Click to expand...

Yes, push more misery on humanity in the name of god :roll:

And yes, the mid part of the century might have been good for religion, it has been going down and in a few years over 1 out of 4 Americans will say they are not following any religion. Now it is almost 23% and that rate will grow because sadly the churches (of at least many of them) are being taken over by extremists or have become so wishy washy that people do not feel the need to be in a church anymore.

Because the more people from the "golden age" as you call it die, the emptier the churches will become as the younger generations are much much much less religious than the older generations. Under 30 it is almost 1/3 who are not religious.

Let us be honest, religion is not a necessity anymore, it does not hold a country in a stranglehold like it did in the past where people were religious "or else".
 
roguenuke said:
Christians were. Some still want to, even in the US. Just because some Muslims do, doesnt mean Christians arent.

Uganda plans bill imposing death penalty for gay sex - Reuters

Christian preacher says gays should be executed because the Bible commands it - Metro Weekly

Heck much of the influence for the laws in Uganda against gays came from US Chrsitians.

It’s Not Just Uganda: Behind the Christian Right’s Onslaught in Africa | The Nation

And yes, I realize there are plenty of Muslim countries that also have laws that allow for or sanction killing gay people. But not all Muslims support such laws.

A gay imam's story: 'The dialogue is open in Islam – 10 years ago it wasn't' | World Economic Forum



Sent from my SM-N970U using Tapatalk
Click to expand...

You excuse Islam by saying ''not all Muslims want to kill gays" while you imply most Christians do. Please be honest.
 
Peter King said:
Yes, push more misery on humanity in the name of god :roll:

And yes, the mid part of the century might have been good for religion, it has been going down and in a few years over 1 out of 4 Americans will say they are not following any religion. Now it is almost 23% and that rate will grow because sadly the churches (of at least many of them) are being taken over by extremists or have become so wishy washy that people do not feel the need to be in a church anymore.

Because the more people from the "golden age" as you call it die, the emptier the churches will become as the younger generations are much much much less religious than the older generations. Under 30 it is almost 1/3 who are not religious.

Let us be honest, religion is not a necessity anymore, it does not hold a country in a stranglehold like it did in the past where people were religious "or else".
Click to expand...

Irreligion and atheism are why things are going down the sewer.
 
roguenuke said:
Catholicism is why I'm the first of 6 children. But your type of Catholic is far from what I view as a good Catholic, very different from those who raised me, who are pretty incredible and tolerant, loving people.

Sent from my SM-N970U using Tapatalk
Click to expand...

Oh, dear. We are a birth order match. No wonder you are attracted to this youngest of six. And Mash is also loving and tolerant. But I also understand actions have consequences. There is no way around that.
 
Mashmont said:
Irreligion and atheism are why things are going down the sewer.
Click to expand...

Wrong as usual, atheists are not that different from religious people, other than we actually believe in the land of the free and not the state of religious dictatorship.
 
Mashmont said:
You excuse Islam by saying ''not all Muslims want to kill gays" while you imply most Christians do. Please be honest.
Click to expand...

What is coming to this world.
We are a mostly Christian country, and they won't even let us throw Gays off buildings or stone them.
 
Yasureoktoo said:
What is coming to this world.
We are a mostly Christian country, and they won't even let us throw Gays off buildings or stone them.
Click to expand...

Christians have never done that...heroically, Christians have been stoned to death, though...Stephen comes to mind...
 
Mashmont said:
Oh, dear. We are a birth order match. No wonder you are attracted to this youngest of six. And Mash is also loving and tolerant. But I also understand actions have consequences. There is no way around that.
Click to expand...
Lol. I'm married, to a Marine, with children. But please have fun with your delusions.

Sent from my SM-N970U using Tapatalk
 
Mashmont said:
You excuse Islam by saying ''not all Muslims want to kill gays" while you imply most Christians do. Please be honest.
Click to expand...
No I didnt imply any such thing about Christians. Some Christians is not equivalent to most. And I've said plenty of times those are Christian extremists, but they do have some high profile leaders. Pat Robertson being a big one.

Sent from my SM-N970U using Tapatalk
 
Elvira said:
Christians have never done that...heroically, Christians have been stoned to death, though...Stephen comes to mind...
Click to expand...
Christians have executed gays (maybe not by throwing them off buildings but still executed them), as well as throwing them into mental institutions.

LGBT history in the United States - Wikipedia

Sent from my SM-N970U using Tapatalk
 
Mashmont said:
After 0bama won in 2012, I was so distraught, in total disbelief at how so many could vote against their self-interests. I was despondent over the blatant election day cheating that took place in so many urban districts, such as Philadelphia where 59 divisions gave 0bama 100% of the vote. I decided there was nothing I could do about it except pray to God. So for the next four years, every day, without missing a single day, I prayed the rosary and asked that America PLEASE be spared complete destruction which would have been the case had Hillary been elected. I knew America didn't deserve deliverance. After all, gay marriage and abortion were the laws of the land. But I just prayed and prayed to a compassionate God, that we might be spared anyway. God heard my prayers and those of millions of others, and America was spared.

But this doesn't mean America learned its lessons and repented for its wrongs. Abortions are still here, gay marriage is still here, and now more people cohabit than marry. So we didn't learn a damn thing from our 2016 reprieve. And now we have this virus. Slamming the most atheist regions: China, Western Europe, and Blue America. But it won't be enough to bring the sinners and/or the godless to their knees. It's going to take something much more severe. Maybe something on the order of the Bubonic Plague which killed between 30% and 60% of the European population.

Or it might take deep depression and wars -- like the 16 years America experienced during 1930's and early 40's--that created a new generation of spirituality. Priests and sisters were consecrated in unprecedented numbers in the 1940s and 50s. That was the heyday of the Catholic school system in America. The 1950s was universally recognized as a great decade. The family structure was intact, we had economic prosperity, and a solid leader in Eisenhower. The word "God" appeared on our currency. We were more of a Christian nation than we'd ever been, and it was forged through hardship. Sadly, America needs such hardship again. It's a shame that human nature is such that when things go easy and well, people get complacent and toss morality out the window. They decide they don't need God. Then the cycle repeats.

If things get irreparably immoral, God exacts the ultimate deserved punishment, which is total annihilation as happened to Sodom. Sodom became to depraved that God leveled it with fire as hot as that of the sun. An exploding meteor just above the city that destroyed and toxified the land so thoroughly, not even vegetation could grow there for 600 years.

Let's not be Sodom.

Let's decide right now that we will once again turn to God the way we should. Let's not wait for total destruction Let's take this virus as a stark reminder of how quickly things can turn. In May when the churches open again, I invite everyone here to start attending Christian services again. My Catholic Church always welcomes you at any time. Let's not make God resort to even greater punishment. Let's do it on our own--asking God's help along the way.

In 59 Philadelphia voting divisions, Mitt Romney got zero votes
Key findings on marriage and cohabitation in the U.S. | Pew Research Center
New Science Suggests Biblical City Of Sodom Was Smote By An Exploding Meteor
Click to expand...

It is in the self-interest of every rational, sober adult to oppose and remove from power fundamentalists and all other fake/pretend Christians.
 
roguenuke said:
Lol. I'm married, to a Marine, with children. But please have fun with your delusions.

Sent from my SM-N970U using Tapatalk
Click to expand...

Don't flatter youself, sister. It was a joke.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
It is in the self-interest of every rational, sober adult to oppose and remove from power fundamentalists and all other fake/pretend Christians.
Click to expand...

It is more in the interest of every rational person to remove all irreligious and/or anti-Christians from power
 
roguenuke said:
No I didnt imply any such thing about Christians. Some Christians is not equivalent to most. And I've said plenty of times those are Christian extremists, but they do have some high profile leaders. Pat Robertson being a big one.

Sent from my SM-N970U using Tapatalk
Click to expand...

I've always wondered what a "Christian extremist" was. Is that someone who loves too much? Or has too much compassion? Or treats people too well? Or is too much like Jesus?
 
Tanngrisnir said:
It is in the self-interest of every rational, sober adult to oppose and remove from power fundamentalists and all other fake/pretend Christians.
Click to expand...
I would say: Remove from power ALL THOSE CRAZY FUNDAMENTALISTS of whatever religion or ideology.
 
Yasureoktoo said:
LOOLO)L


They still don't know where Obama was born.
All we do know, is it was not Hawaii.
Click to expand...

Can you show it wasn't Hawaii? Let's see you try.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom