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Is Christian a synonym for evangelical fundamentalists?

Is Christian a synonym for evangelical fundamentalists?

  • no, there are also other Christians

    Votes: 9 100.0%

  • maybe

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • yes, there are no other Christians

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • don't know

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    9
Rumpel said:
Is Christian a synonym for evangelical fundamentalists or are there other Christians as well?
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Also to be fair basically every faction claims to be the only real Christians... all the big ones for sure!


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ArtemisBarca said:
Also to be fair basically every faction claims to be the only real Christians... all the big ones for sure!
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But ....

But they do NOT use "Christian" as a synonym for their respective denomination.

That is the big difference.
 
HumblePi said:
I don't know if anyone else has noticed but fundamentalist Christians will usually quote scripture and religious doctrine from the old testament and prophets such as Isiah or Jonah, not the new testament. It's rare for a alt-right conservative Christian to quote passages from Matthew, Mark, Luke or John as to the teachings of Jesus Christ. They follow the old testament because the prophets were men that 'spoke to God' when in reality they were leaders of the Jews that needed to control the masses of people during those times in order to get people in line and to rule over them.
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That has also struck me as odd!
 
Rumpel said:
But ....

But they do NOT use "Christian" as a synonym for their respective denomination.

That is the big difference.
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Yes they do...

Why would they refer to those they did not consider real Christians, Christians at all????

Maybe the call them “Christians” lol... in quotations...

PS. I am referring to the over all narrative NOT the beliefs of individuals..


Like only .001% of Christians who are not clergy have ever even read the whole bible. Individual Christians believe all kinda unsupported nonsense.


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Rumpel said:
I think it likely that I know a lot more about Martin Luther than you do.
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Ok then maybe you should brush up on the Bible, you seem awfully conflicted


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ArtemisBarca said:
Yes they do...

Why would they refer to those they did not consider real Christians, Christians at all????

Maybe the call them “Christians” lol... in quotations...

PS. I am referring to the over all narrative NOT the beliefs of individuals..


Like only .001% of Christians who are not clergy have ever even read the whole bible. Individual Christians believe all kinda unsupported nonsense.
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Sorry, I do not understand.
 
Stopandthink said:
Ok then maybe you should brush up on the Bible
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I know the Bible
and I know Martin Luther.
And other things.
So don't worry.

Btw: I do not take the Bible literally - as you seem to do.

I do NOT believe the world is 6000 years old and that all homosexuals should be killed in a cruel way.
Like those pious US "Bible Christians" believe - that seem to be so popular and well liked in the USA - while Catholics are looked down upon as "pagan" and "false" and maybe "satanic".
 
Rumpel said:
Sorry, I do not understand.
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Just saying that every major faction considers themselves the only real Christians..


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ArtemisBarca said:
Just saying that every major faction considers themselves the only real Christians..
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"real Christians" is the same logical error as "true Scotsmen".

Imagine some Scottish chauvinist settled down one Sunday morning with his customary copy of The News of the World. He reads the story under the headline, 'Sidcup Sex Maniac Strikes Again'. Our reader is, as he confidently expected, agreeably shocked: 'No Scot would do such a thing!' Yet the very next Sunday he finds in that same favourite source a report of the even more scandalous on-goings of Mr Angus McSporran in Aberdeen. This clearly constitutes a counter example, which definitively falsifies the universal proposition originally put forward. ('Falsifies' here is, of course, simply the opposite of 'verifies'; and it therefore means 'shows to be false'.) Allowing that this is indeed such a counter example, he ought to withdraw; retreating perhaps to a rather weaker claim about most or some. But even an imaginary Scot is, like the rest of us, human; and none of us always does what we ought to do. So what he is in fact saying is: 'No true Scotsman would do such a thing!'
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No true Scotsman - Wikipedia
 
Rumpel said:
I know the Bible
and I know Martin Luther.
And other things.
So don't worry.

Btw: I do not take the Bible literally - as you seem to do.

I do NOT believe the world is 6000 years old and that all homosexuals should be killed in a cruel way.
Like those pious US "Bible Christians" believe - that seem to be so popular and well liked in the USA - while Catholics are looked down upon as "pagan" and "false" and maybe "satanic".
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Your problem is that you’re unwilling to accept the Bible for what it says, that is your key to true followers of Christ. I’m talking in a general sense and understanding gospel basics. I think your battle is as Catholic you have a system in place that is hard to justify when you take a simple look at scripture.


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Stopandthink said:
Your problem is that you’re unwilling to accept the Bible for what it says
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It is only that I do not take the Bible literally. I do not believe that the world has been created in 7 days.
Do you believe that?
Then that's your problem, not mine,
 
Stopandthink said:
Your problem is that you’re unwilling to accept the Bible for what it says, that is your key to true followers of Christ. I’m talking in a general sense and understanding gospel basics. I think your battle is as Catholic you have a system in place that is hard to justify when you take a simple look at scripture.


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I'm sort of confused about Rumpel. If I'm not mistaken, he is a FORMER-Catholic who's now an atheist.
 
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Iwould like to copy this here:
I would like to repeat:


I am not anti-Christian.
I am a Catholic, and so I am a Christian myself.
If I were anti-Christian, then I would be anti-myself.

What I oppose strongly is the use of the word "Christian" as a synonym for evangelical fundamentlists.
By suggesting that only they are Christians one insults all other Christians beside those evangelical fundamentlists.
There are a lot more Christians out there in this word beside evangelical fundamentalists.
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I thought .........you were a FORMER-Catholic who's now an atheist.

Am I wrong?
 
tosca1 said:
I'm sort of confused about Rumpel. If I'm not mistaken, he is a FORMER-Catholic who's now an atheist.
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lol...one would think...:2razz:
 
tosca1 said:
I'm sort of confused about Rumpel. If I'm not mistaken, he is a FORMER-Catholic who's now an atheist.
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I am not a Bible Christian.
Does that make one an atheist?

:cool:
 
tosca1 said:
I thought .........you were a FORMER-Catholic
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May I answer in Latin ....

Credo ...... et UNAM SANCTAM CATHOLICAM et APOSTOLICAM ECCLESIAM.

So in the eyes of Bible Christians that makes me a satanic pagan.
 
There is only one type of real Christian...the one who follows Christ's teachings...all of his teachings, including believing in his Heavenly Father, Jehovah...
 
Rumpel said:
It is only that I do not take the Bible literally. I do not believe that the world has been created in 7 days.
Do you believe that?
Then that's your problem, not mine,
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I wasn’t there so I can’t say for sure, and it doesn’t change my salvation in Christ by grace through faith! Call me a fundie or whatever your back handed terms may be, a basic comprehension of biblical doctrine and soteriology would go a long way for you.


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Stopandthink said:
Your problem is that you’re unwilling to accept the Bible for what it says, that is your key to true followers of Christ. I’m talking in a general sense and understanding gospel basics. I think your battle is as Catholic you have a system in place that is hard to justify when you take a simple look at scripture.


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Lmao...


Pot meet kettle. Lol

Every single devoutly religious person thinks that exact thing about every faction that disagrees with them...


Like a couple of squirrels fighting over both claiming THEY KNOW, the unknowable. Lol


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Rumpel said:
Again and again I have seen the term "Christians" applied to evangelical fundamentalists only, as if it were a synonym for Christians and there were no other Christians beside them anywhere.

So here now is a poll on this topic.
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Fundamentalists refer to themselves as Christian, as do all Christians. The difference is that they are less willing to apply the term to non fundamentalists. This is only my opinion. I have no documentation. I think that for fundamentalists, the two terms are synonymous.
 
HumblePi said:
I don't know if anyone else has noticed but fundamentalist Christians will usually quote scripture and religious doctrine from the old testament and prophets such as Isiah or Jonah, not the new testament. It's rare for a alt-right conservative Christian to quote passages from Matthew, Mark, Luke or John as to the teachings of Jesus Christ. They follow the old testament because the prophets were men that 'spoke to God' when in reality they were leaders of the Jews that needed to control the masses of people during those times in order to get people in line and to rule over them.
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Not really. The prophets were a bunch of annoying old men who tended to get themselves killed.
 
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