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    Re: The apocalypse deception

    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpel View Post
    Here is the Link again:

    (PDF) The Book of Revelation is not what it claims to be THE APOCALYPSE DECEPTION | Fred Harding - Academia.edu

    But it is said that it may not be quoted anywhere
    Seems to be a standard copyright claim "No part of this publication, with the exception of critical review under the terms of "Fair Use, may be reproduced"
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    Re: The apocalypse deception

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvira View Post
    Any of it...
    That is a statement of your specific religious faith, one that ignores actual history.
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    Re: The apocalypse deception

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    That is a statement of your specific religious faith, one that ignores actual history.
    Wrong, my faith does not ignore history and it does not ignore prophecy...
    "I hate falsehood—I detest it—I love your law." Psalm 119:163

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    Re: The apocalypse deception

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvira View Post
    Wrong, my faith does not ignore history and it does not ignore prophecy...
    The Book of Revelation is not accepted as canonical in the Eastern Orthodox Church. Are those who profess that faith "True Christians"?
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    Re: The apocalypse deception

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvira View Post
    Wrong, my faith does not ignore history and it does not ignore prophecy...
    Did the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse bring the Black Death to Europe in the Middle Ages?
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    Re: The apocalypse deception

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvira View Post
    Wrong, my faith does not ignore history and it does not ignore prophecy...
    Was Martin Luther the Anti-Christ? Was the Pope the Whore of Babylon?
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    Re: The apocalypse deception

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Was Martin Luther the Anti-Christ? Was the Pope the Whore of Babylon?
    Here, you can read all about it...

    Revelation Climax (re) — Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY
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    Re: The apocalypse deception

    The Witnesses make many claims in their attempt to convert you to their faith. They profess to have the only true Christian church, to be the only true representatives of God, to have the only correct biblical teaching, and to be the only true announcers of Jehovah's coming kingdom.

    If they are the only true church and are the only true voice of God's word, then what they say should prove to be true and especially in prophecy. When it comes to predicting the future, the Watchtower organization fails miserably. Following are some of the false predictions made over the years by the Watchtower organization. If you present these to a JW, he will probably say something like, "Those are taken out of context," or "They didn't claim to be the prophet of God," or "The light is getting brighter, and we are understanding Bible prophecy better now," etc. Make a copy of these false prophecies, found in the appendix, and give it to them to check. They are right out of the Witnesses' literature.

    Remember Deut. 18:22, "If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him." If someone makes a false prophecy and they have claimed to be a prophet of God, then they are false prophets and are not to be listened to. Do the Witnesses claim to be the prophet of God? Yes, they do.

    Jehovah's Witnesses and their many false prophecies | CARM.org
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    Re: The apocalypse deception

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvira View Post
    Any of it...
    Care to back up your claim with this item known as 'support and facts'? (Which, by the way, elminates the JW.Org web site as a source)
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    Re: The apocalypse deception

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    The Book of Revelation is not accepted as canonical in the Eastern Orthodox Church.

    Three cheers for the Eastern Orthodox Church, then!
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