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what religion is hardest for you to understand people joining? why?

what religion is hardest for you to understand people joining?

  • catholic

    Votes: 3 9.1%

  • baptist

    Votes: 1 3.0%

  • jehovah witness

    Votes: 3 9.1%

  • mormon

    Votes: 3 9.1%

  • evangelical

    Votes: 2 6.1%

  • jewish

    Votes: 2 6.1%

  • buddhist

    Votes: 1 3.0%

  • other or combination of above

    Votes: 18 54.5%
  • Total voters
    33
  • Poll closed .
Royal PITA said:
Santa Claus was real. :) It's not unusual for real but significant people to evolve into legends. For almost a hundred years George Armstrong Custer was seen as a hero but later facts proved he was not. Same for Jesse James. Look at George Washington and the Cherry Tree.

The History of How St. Nicholas Became Santa Claus
How did this St. Nicholas turn into the North Pole-dwelling bringer of Christmas gifts? The original saint was a Greek born in the late third century, around 280 A.D. He became bishop of Myra, a small Roman town in modern Turkey. Nicholas was neither fat nor jolly but developed a reputation as a fiery, wiry, and defiant defender of church doctrine during the Great Persecution in 303, when Bibles were burned and priests made to renounce Christianity or face execution.

Nicholas defied these edicts and spent years in prison before the Roman emperor Constantine ended Christian persecution in 313 with the Edict of Milan. Nicholas's fame lived long after his death (on December 6 in the mid-fourth century, around 343) because he was associated with many miracles, and reverence for him continues to this day independent of his Christmas connection. He is the protector of many types of people, from orphans to sailors to prisoners.

Nicholas rose to prominence among the saints because he was the patron of so many groups. By about 1200, explained University of Manitoba historian Gerry Bowler, author of Santa Claus: A Biography, he became known as a patron of children and magical gift bringer because of two great stories from his life.

In the better-known tale, three young girls are saved from a life of prostitution when young Bishop Nicholas secretly delivers three bags of gold to their indebted father, which can be used for their dowries.
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That's nice. So you can prove he is not currently handing out gifts on Christmas?


Please do so
 
vegas giants said:
Sane people. Lol
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According to whom? IMO, it's not rational or sane to seek to cause others pain by lying about them or baiting, flaming and trolling them.

From my education and experience the term for such people is sadist: a person who derives pleasure, especially sexual gratification, from inflicting pain or humiliation on others. Sadism is negative personality trait and, possibly, a mental illness. Medical science is still debating how to categorize it.
 
Royal PITA said:
According to whom? IMO, it's not rational or sane to seek to cause others pain by lying about them or baiting, flaming and trolling them. From my education and experience the term for such people is sadist: a person who derives pleasure, especially sexual gratification, from inflicting pain or humiliation on others.
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Tell it to mashmont
 
vegas giants said:
Tell it to mashmont
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Why? Are you blaming him for your behavior? That's a psychiatric condition too, most often associated with narcissism as we see Trump do almost daily.


How Narcissists Blame and Accuse Others for Their Own Shortcomings | The Psychology of Self
People with strong narcissistic tendencies and other dark personality traits tend to blame others for their own bad behavior. If they are lying, then they will accuse others of lying. If they are cruel, they will say that others are cruel. If they are stealing and scamming, then they will accuse others of stealing and scamming. They never take responsibility, and it’s always someone else’s fault.

Besides ascribing their undesirable character traits to others, they will attribute the good characteristics of others to themselves. For example, if they see someone being nice, they will say, “No, no, this person is not nice—I am nice!” If somebody is successful and happy, the narcissist will say, “That person is such a loser and a fake—but I, I am really successful and authentic!”

Psychologically speaking, this mechanism is called projection, and I talk more about it in my article titled 5 Ways Narcissists Project and Attack You.


Why Narcissists Always Blame Others - Dr. George Simon

5 Types of Narcissistic Blame Shifting | Narcissist, Sociopath, and Psychopath Abuse Recovery
 
Royal PITA said:
Why? Are you blaming him for your behavior? That's a psychiatric condition too, most often associated with narcissism as we see Trump do almost daily.


How Narcissists Blame and Accuse Others for Their Own Shortcomings | The Psychology of Self
People with strong narcissistic tendencies and other dark personality traits tend to blame others for their own bad behavior. If they are lying, then they will accuse others of lying. If they are cruel, they will say that others are cruel. If they are stealing and scamming, then they will accuse others of stealing and scamming. They never take responsibility, and it’s always someone else’s fault.

Besides ascribing their undesirable character traits to others, they will attribute the good characteristics of others to themselves. For example, if they see someone being nice, they will say, “No, no, this person is not nice—I am nice!” If somebody is successful and happy, the narcissist will say, “That person is such a loser and a fake—but I, I am really successful and authentic!”

Psychologically speaking, this mechanism is called projection, and I talk more about it in my article titled 5 Ways Narcissists Project and Attack You.


Why Narcissists Always Blame Others - Dr. George Simon

5 Types of Narcissistic Blame Shifting | Narcissist, Sociopath, and Psychopath Abuse Recovery
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Would you like to discuss evidence based treatments to treat that disorder?


I was a therapist for 30 years.



You are way out of your league. Lol
 
vegas giants said:
Would you like to discuss evidence based treatments to treat that disorder?


I was a therapist for 30 years.



You are way out of your league. Lol
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omg. A therapist. Such hatred that emanates from you. Hard to believe you could have been successful
 
Mashmont said:
omg. A therapist. Such hatred that emanates from you. Hard to believe you could have been successful
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And what DSM 5 diagnosis would that fall under?


Your post is laughable
 
vegas giants said:
And what DSM 5 diagnosis would that fall under?


Your post is laughable
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Therapist, heal thyself.

omg. I wouldn't even consider going to a therapist filled with such vile anti-religion bigotry.
 
Mashmont said:
Therapist, heal thyself.

omg. I wouldn't even consider going to a therapist filled with such vile anti-religion bigotry.
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I am not accepting new patients.


I respect your religion....as long as you leave it at your church.


We are a secular nation and I aim to keep it that way
 
vegas giants said:
Would you like to discuss evidence based treatments to treat that disorder?

I was a therapist for 30 years.

You are way out of your league. Lol
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You should consider discussing them with your "we".

Evidence? Proof? It's certainly not in your postings. People claim all sorts of fantasies online safely hidden behind their anonymity. I take all claims with a large grain of salt. If they post something contrary to their claims, then I lean toward disbelieving those claims.

Disagreed.
 
Royal PITA said:
You should consider discussing them with your "we".

Evidence? Proof? It's certainly not in your postings.

Disagreed.
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I suspect vegas is talking out of his ass, like he usually does.
 
Royal PITA said:
You should consider discussing them with your "we".

Evidence? Proof? It's certainly not in your postings. People claim all sorts of fantasies online safely hidden behind their anonymity. I take all claims with a large grain of salt. If they post something contrary to their claims, then I lean toward disbelieving those claims.

Disagreed.
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I dont need your belief. If you can believe in fairy tales....you can believe anything
 
vegas giants said:
I dont need your belief. If you can believe in fairy tales....you can believe anything
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Can anyone imaging going to a therapist so openly hostile to everything that is good?
 
Mashmont said:
Can anyone imaging going to a therapist so openly hostile to everything that is good?
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Only a catholic would think protecting pedophiles is good.


Disgusting
 
vegas giants said:
Awwwwwww.


Sad you got crushed again? Lol
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Is that the kind of thing you said to your clients? Honestly, you can't separate religion from good, and such a response is evidence that that neither was present in your consultations.
 
vegas giants said:
I dont need your belief. If you can believe in fairy tales....you can believe anything
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Of course you don't. Why would I think you would....except for the fact you looooove responding to my posts which causes me to think you care about my thoughts regarding you.

Yes, I am free to believe in fairy tales just like you. You can believe anything and you've proved you do. Nothing wrong with people having that freedom. The only wrongness is when others seek to use physical or mental actions to force others to believe differently. You know, like the atheists Stalin and Mao did to millions of their own people. It's a common tactic of brutal dictators and bullies. Do you think they were narcissists too? Sadists?
 
Mashmont said:
Is that the kind of thing you said to your clients? Honestly, you can't separate religion from good, and such a response is evidence that that neither was present in your consultations.
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Thank you dr Phil. Lol



Back to the op



I can never understand a religion like catholicism that systematically protected pedophiles thru the highest levels of their leadership
 
Royal PITA said:
Of course you don't. Why would I think you would....except for the fact you looooove responding to my posts which causes me to think you care about my thoughts regarding you.

Yes, I am free to believe in fairy tales just like you. You can believe anything and you've proved you do. Nothing wrong with people having that freedom. The only wrongness is when others seek to use physical or mental actions to force others to believe differently. You know, like the atheists Stalin and Mao did to millions of their own people. It's a common tactic of brutal dictators and bullies. Do you think they were narcissists too? Sadists?
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You want to force your religion into US law.


This is a secular country.


Keep it in church
 
Mashmont said:
Is that the kind of thing you said to your clients? Honestly, you can't separate religion from good, and such a response is evidence that that neither was present in your consultations.
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Agreed with this point. Such tactics are not conducive to good therapeutic treatment. Certainly not a positive way of persuading others.
 
Royal PITA said:
Agreed with this point. Such tactics are not conducive to good therapeutic treatment. Certainly not a positive way of persuading others.
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This is based on your knowledge of this field? Lol
 
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