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Why Do Skeptics Go Out of Their Way to Bash Christians?

zyzygy said:
I am not a sinner.
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If we make the statement, “We have no sin,” we are misleading ourselves and the truth is not in us." 1 John 1:8
 
Peter King said:
Except these are state laws, no federal law can order states to ban abortion. So many states as in the past will still have freedom of choice.
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Does it have to be federal?



Take a deep breath.

Read this several times. Slowly.


If it's the law that abortion is illegal, then it can be enforced.

Just like any other illegal activities.




If it's the law in California.....or Minnesota......or Idaho......or Wyoming......etc...,

then it can be enforced just like any other laws in those states. Boy, I hope that's clear enough.





And it is not me who is out of his/her league. That would be the pro-life extremists.
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I'm not talking about other pro-choice people. Nor is this about extremist pro-lifers!


I'm talking about you! The point is sailing over your head! Not theirs! Don't drag them with you!
You're the only one so far who's getting all bent out of shape over this logic!
You're having a hard time getting it!






Because 66% of voters do not want Roe v. Wade repealed.
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Irrelevant!



If it's the law that abortion is illegal, then it can be enforced.

Just like any other illegal activities.
 
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Elvira said:
If we make the statement, “We have no sin,” we are misleading ourselves and the truth is not in us." 1 John 1:8
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Of course, 1 john , a pseudo graphical work, can not be shown to be have truth in it to begin with.
 
tosca1 said:
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Does it have to be federal?



Take a deep breath.

Read this several times. Slowly.


If it's the law that abortion is illegal, then it can be enforced.

Just like any other illegal activities.




If it's the law in California.....or Minnesota......or Idaho......or Wyoming......etc...,

then it can be enforced just like any other laws in those states. Boy, I hope that's clear enough.







I'm not talking about other pro-choice people. Nor is this about extremist pro-life!
Don't drag them with you!

I'm talking about you - the point is sailing over your head!
You're the only one so far who's getting all bent out of shape over this logic!








Irrelevant!



If it's the law that abortion is illegal, then it can be enforced.

Just like any other illegal activities.
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Still making the same argument I agreed with posts ago, it is your constitutional right to try and change the abortion laws but the more older people stop voting, the more younger people will start to determine this discussion and they are more on the side of freedom of choice than the older voters.

Just because you and others want to make the US into a theocracy where civil rights are stripped on the views of religious extremists does not mean others will go along with this. It would be against the norms of the US to allow religious extremists to determine the rights of all others. And women will strike back ruthlessly if the pro-life bunch gets laws enacted, they will stand up and will do the same as you do, vote it out of the law books.
 
calamity said:
The problem is thinking that what you believe makes you better than everyone who does not believe the nonsense you believe.
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That's what you think! You're paranoid that believers feel they're better than non-believers.

So, you're the one with the problem! :shrug:


They don't feel they're better than you, silly.
They feel they are in a better position than non-believers (based on what the Bible says). Big difference.


Lol. Put yourself in their shoes.
Wouldn't you feel you're in a better position (if you are a believer) compared to being a non-believer - when it's repeatedly stated in their Bible that believers will gain eternal life as compared to non-believers who'll face eternal torture in hell?



Even now......I still thank God for helping me find my way back to Him. It felt so cold and empty being far from Him!
I can still remember enough how it was like! I can only imagine how worse it must be to be totally without Him!





Look at it this way. Would anyone care if Charlie believed the earth was flat? No. We could not care less what the **** Charlie believes.
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EXACTLY!



So...…


...what's your effing problem then, if Christians believe non-believers will go to hell? :mrgreen:


Why are you so livid? Because...…...you care?


Lol. You're tied to every Religion topic like you're tied to an umbilical cord or something.

Why can't you just let go? :lol:
Go out and smell the flowers - have a drink - take a swim - ENJOY LIFE.
You don't sound like you enjoy life at all.....

Why keep making yourself miserable over what you claim you "don't believe in?"

I don't believe you're indifferent, Calam. I think thou protest too much.
No matter what you say - I think you're getting stung by that bee in your bonnet.





But, when Charlie joins the school board and, along with other Charlies, begins a crusade to change the textbooks to reflect his beliefs that the earth is flat, arguing that Round-Earthers are inherently evil and only Flat-Earthers are good, folks chosen by the supreme being of the universe to spread the good word of the flat earth, we have a ****ing problem.
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You're sounding like Peter here. Trying to drag others in. Don't say "we."

YOU, have the ****ing problem. OWN IT! :mrgreen:




Get it?
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No. Your analogy is wrong.

Charlie isn't trying to change his world by joining the school board. He's casting his vote! :lol:
 
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RAMOSS said:
This is a false dichotomy. There are atheists that also do not like specific religions, such as Scientology, but don't care about the rest, and then there are plenty of atheists that are ex-christian, and do no have any animosity to religion.
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I'd like to think I fall into the latter category. I was raised Catholic and now I don't believe in a god or gods at all. However, I like to discuss the subject owing to the connection to my fields of study, but I would not prohibit anyone from practising a faith, nor would I treat them any differently for doing so.
 
 
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beancounter said:
Why do Christians go out of their way to demonize Atheists?
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...and Muslims and Jews and Pagans and Hindus (for the few who even know they exist)...
 
tosca1 said:
That's what you think! You're paranoid that believers feel they're better than non-believers.

So, you're the one with the problem! :shrug:


They don't feel they're better than you, silly.
They feel they are in a better position than non-believers (based on what the Bible says). Big difference.


Lol. Put yourself in their shoes.
Wouldn't you feel you're in a better position (if you are a believer) compared to being a non-believer - when it's repeatedly stated in their Bible that believers will gain eternal life as compared to non-believers who'll face eternal torture in hell?



Even now......I still thank God for helping me find my way back to Him. It felt so cold and empty being far from Him!
I can still remember enough how it was like! I can only imagine how worse it must be to be totally without Him!








EXACTLY!



So...…


...what's your effing problem then, if Christians believe non-believers will go to hell? :mrgreen:


Why are you so livid? Because...…...you care?


Lol. You're tied to every Religion topic like you're tied to an umbilical cord or something.

Why can't you just let go? :lol:
Go out and smell the flowers - have a drink - take a swim - ENJOY LIFE.
You don't sound like you enjoy life at all.....

Why keep making yourself miserable over what you claim you "don't believe in?"

I don't believe you're indifferent, Calam. I think thou protest too much.
No matter what you say - I think you're getting stung by that bee in your bonnet.








You're sounding like Peter here. Trying to drag others in. Don't say "we."

YOU, have the ****ing problem. OWN IT! :mrgreen:






No. Your analogy is wrong.

Charlie isn't trying to change his world by joining the school board. He's casting his vote! :lol:
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Yes they vote fantasy first, reality last. This is bad.
 
Hawkins said:
Perhaps because they are not religious but all stuck at religious forums?
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Most religious people don't choose their religious affiliation because they aligned with their personalities but were raised in that religion. Most have never questioned their beliefs because it is only an expected social membership to them.

I have said many times that if religious conservatives were required by law to obey the teachings of the person who they claim to be the son of God and their savior that they would claim to be victims of pernicious religious persecution.
The bible to them is nothing but 1200 pages of excuses to pick and choose from as a way to justify their bigotry because they can hide behind the religious protections of the First Amendment.

If you need a 2500-year-old book of myths to tell you what is right and wrong because you cannot think for yourself and obey the golden rule, that Jesus taught in both Mathew 7:12 and Luke 6:31, then you are not a moral person but an amoral sociopath on an imaginary leash.
 
Lisa said:
Most religious people don't choose their religious affiliation because they aligned with their personalities but were raised in that religion. Most have never questioned their beliefs because it is only an expected social membership to them.

I have said many times that if religious conservatives were required by law to obey the teachings of the person who they claim to be the son of God and their savior that they would claim to be victims of pernicious religious persecution.
The bible to them is nothing but 1200 pages of excuses to pick and choose from as a way to justify their bigotry because they can hide behind the religious protections of the First Amendment.

If you need a 2500-year-old book of myths to tell you what is right and wrong because you cannot think for yourself and obey the golden rule, that Jesus taught in both Mathew 7:12 and Luke 6:31, then you are not a moral person but an amoral sociopath on an imaginary leash.
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Not every conservative is religious. Furthermore, imposing force is precisely what so-called "progressives" do. They are the fascist left who only know how to force others to do their bidding. Your abject hatred of the First Amendment and the US Constitution in general is noted, and expected from your ilk.
 
Glitch said:
Not every conservative is religious. Furthermore, imposing force is precisely what so-called "progressives" do. They are the fascist left who only know how to force others to do their bidding. Your abject hatred of the First Amendment and the US Constitution in general is noted, and expected from your ilk.
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It seems to be quite the straw man to claim Lisa has 'hatred' of the first amendment. I think you owe her an apology.
 
RAMOSS said:
It seems to be quite the straw man to claim Lisa has 'hatred' of the first amendment. I think you owe her an apology.
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She has more than amply demonstrated her abject hatred for the First Amendment by her repeated attacks on those who have religious beliefs. A common practice among all Anti-American leftist scum. The only "free speech" they recognize is what they personally approve, and they have no regard for anyone's right to religious belief. As was clearly demonstrated by the leftist scum working for the State of Colorado against Mr. Phillips.
 
Glitch said:
She has more than amply demonstrated her abject hatred for the First Amendment by her repeated attacks on those who have religious beliefs. A common practice among all Anti-American leftist scum. The only "free speech" they recognize is what they personally approve, and they have no regard for anyone's right to religious belief. As was clearly demonstrated by the leftist scum working for the State of Colorado against Mr. Phillips.
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I would say she is being much more civil than that, and your attack on her is unwarrented. Take the plank out of your own eye.
 
Glitch said:
She has more than amply demonstrated her abject hatred for the First Amendment by her repeated attacks on those who have religious beliefs. A common practice among all Anti-American leftist scum. The only "free speech" they recognize is what they personally approve, and they have no regard for anyone's right to religious belief. As was clearly demonstrated by the leftist scum working for the State of Colorado against Mr. Phillips.
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An attack! I thought that you disapproved of that sort of thing.
 
Glitch said:
She has more than amply demonstrated her abject hatred for the First Amendment by her repeated attacks on those who have religious beliefs. A common practice among all Anti-American leftist scum. The only "free speech" they recognize is what they personally approve, and they have no regard for anyone's right to religious belief. As was clearly demonstrated by the leftist scum working for the State of Colorado against Mr. Phillips.
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So exercising free speech is an attack on the First Amendment. Have you ever read Thomas Paine's The Age of Reason? Was he anti-American?
 
May I ask again why "pious Bible Christians" often go out of their way to bash Catholics?
And go as far as claiming that Catholics are no Christians at all?

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Rumpel said:
May I ask again why "pious Bible Christians" often go out of their way to bash Catholics?
And go as far as claiming that Catholics are no Christians at all?

:doh:confused:
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What does one base their Christianity on if not the Bible? SMH...
 
tosca1 said:
EXACTLY!



So...…


...what's your effing problem then, if Christians believe non-believers will go to hell?
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And I thought you were over that stage! :mrgreen:
 
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