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Why Do Skeptics Go Out of Their Way to Bash Christians?

beancounter said:
Came here late, but wasn't obvious from the first few OP post that this is a pure troll thread?...

Don't feed the trolls.
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She won't be trolling anymore. She is banned.
 
SheWolf said:
I think Trump is more corrupt than Hillary. It was obvious. He also lacks personal morals in ways that I wouldn't accuse Hillary of.
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He also got some leeway with Independents (and even some Dems and Repubs) as being a political unknown. All they knew 3+ years ago was Trump was up against Hillary Clinton and how he conducted his personal affairs. They didnt know how he would be in office but knew Hillary from past political experience and she left a bad taste. Now Trump is leaving a bad taste for many of those.

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Elvira said:
A person without sin...what Adam and Eve were before they disobeyed...
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So an unknowing, ignorant obedient slave who loves you because they dont know any better?

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Apparently, it is nearly impossible for a thread on this website to go on without someone displaying accute symptoms of Trump derangement syndrom. Everybody is perfectly aware that Trump is not an examplar of moral rectitude by any stretch of the imagination. To be entirely frank, he is often pretty crass and kind of d***. So what? Would you pick surgeons and firefighters based on how good of a role model they make for children? His job doesn't require him to be nice. People didn't pick him because he can walk on water like Christ.

Can we all stop obsessing over this nonsense?
 
roguenuke said:
He also got some leeway with Independents (and even some Dems and Repubs) as being a political unknown. All they knew 3+ years ago was Trump was up against Hillary Clinton and how he conducted his personal affairs. They didnt know how he would be in office but knew Hillary from past political experience and she left a bad taste. Now Trump is leaving a bad taste for many of those.

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My aunt says she is always shocked by Trump’s conduct and decisions in office. She thought he would be a decent politician. I know people who say that stuff, but I am honestly not very surprised by Trump in office. I saw his behavior on the campaign trail. I know he had no political record, but I always thought of him as a narcissistic, bully with an egg shell ego. He always seemed brash and unhinged imo
 
TheEconomist said:
Apparently, it is nearly impossible for a thread on this website to go on without someone displaying accute symptoms of Trump derangement syndrom. Everybody is perfectly aware that Trump is not an examplar of moral rectitude by any stretch of the imagination. To be entirely frank, he is often pretty crass and kind of d***. So what? Would you pick surgeons and firefighters based on how good of a role model they make for children? His job doesn't require him to be nice. People didn't pick him because he can walk on water like Christ.

Can we all stop obsessing over this nonsense?
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It’s not just an issue of him being an asshole. Churchill was an asshole, but he was also a good leader and an intelligent, talented politician.

Trump is none of the above. His judgement is flawed, because he is self grandiose narcissist who constantly lies. He doesn’t care about America. He only cares about himself and his own power. A demagogue like Trump is a danger to our constitutional government
 
Elvira said:
A person without sin...what Adam and Eve were before they disobeyed...
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So sin is missing the mark of perfection and perfection is a person without sin. So as soon as we figure out what sin is we will be able to figure out what perfection is.
 
devildavid said:
So sin is missing the mark of perfection and perfection is a person without sin. So as soon as we figure out what sin is we will be able to figure out what perfection is.
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Speak for yourself there, there's no we to it...I understand what each is...
 
SheWolf said:
Trump has been sued multiple times. He was found to abuse his personal charity for personal gain. I bet Fox News didn’t tell you that. Trump University was another huge scam. Everything Trump accused Hillary of, he has personally done and much worse. Hillary doesn’t brag about sexually assaulting people. Hillary doesn’t say if her daughter wasn’t her daughter, she would be dating her because her daughter is a piece of ass. Hillary is also not a racist bigot.

She is a far better human being than Trump, and I believe she is less corrupt than Trump, which is sad to say, because I actually do think Hillary is very corrupt. Neither of them should be president.
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In your dreams.

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Logicman said:
Click on the link for your update.

Why Do Skeptics Go Out of Their Way to Bash Christians?
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I've never gone knocking on strangers doors, asking them if they believe, and if they say yes, telling them they should quit believing. Never heard of any skeptics who have. I've also never threatened anyone with eternal torture. Never heard of any skeptics who have. I've never told people to believe in my imaginary friend, and that he's going to hurt them if they don't give me money. Never heard of a skeptic who has.

Maybe it's time for Christians to take personal responsibility?
 
SheWolf said:
My aunt says she is always shocked by Trump’s conduct and decisions in office. She thought he would be a decent politician. I know people who say that stuff, but I am honestly not very surprised by Trump in office. I saw his behavior on the campaign trail. I know he had no political record, but I always thought of him as a narcissistic, bully with an egg shell ego. He always seemed brash and unhinged imo
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I'm not surprised at all by his behavior. I've never thought he was a decent man. It was obvious he was narcissistic and greedy, driven by his ego, not traits that are good for a President, especially not when they are a persons primary personality traits.

However I can see how others didnt see that or wanted to believe he would be different. It should have been obvious beforehand, given The Apprentice or that picture of him and his family with the picture of himself huge on the mantle behind them.

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TheEconomist said:
Apparently, it is nearly impossible for a thread on this website to go on without someone displaying accute symptoms of Trump derangement syndrom. Everybody is perfectly aware that Trump is not an examplar of moral rectitude by any stretch of the imagination. To be entirely frank, he is often pretty crass and kind of d***. So what? Would you pick surgeons and firefighters based on how good of a role model they make for children? His job doesn't require him to be nice. People didn't pick him because he can walk on water like Christ.

Can we all stop obsessing over this nonsense?
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Yes I would consider how either a surgeon or a firefighter behaved towards others and their motivations for what they did prior to hiring them for a job if I were in charge, particularly a firefighter, since part of his job will be saving people, even some from things other than a fire. A surgeon would need to be able to talk to family and patients in a genuinely sympathetic and calming manner to give them news about what he did or needs to do, to give them confidence that he cared and would do his best for them, not just do the job to get paid and move on. I would never hire someone like Trump for either job or many others.

I recently had to experience having my youngest going through emergency surgery. That surgeon exemplified those qualities of calm and professionalism and sympathy for others, as well as showing to be very knowledgable in his job, especially since when my son started having severe pain less than 24 hours prior to the surgery beginning, most others including us thought he was having constipation and just couldnt explain it due to being autistic. It was that highly competent surgeon who discovered the problem and explained the purpose of also doing an appendectomy with it since the problem was so close to that area. Less than 2 weeks later, my son was completely healed with just three small scars. I would never trust someone like Trump to be a surgeon or a firefighter. Would you trust Trump to be a competent surgeon or firefighter?

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JustHanging said:
I've never gone knocking on strangers doors, asking them if they believe, and if they say yes, telling them they should quit believing. Never heard of any skeptics who have. I've also never threatened anyone with eternal torture. Never heard of any skeptics who have. I've never told people to believe in my imaginary friend, and that he's going to hurt them if they don't give me money. Never heard of a skeptic who has.

Maybe it's time for Christians to take personal responsibility?
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Bible-based Christians aren't going to Kow Tow to secular or ungodly whims. They have the "great commission" from Jesus.

Perhaps it's time for anti-Christian zealots to quit hanging around like vultures seeking to turn Christians from the truth of Jesus Christ. That's what the devil does. They're just storing up wrath for themselves come Judgment Day.
 
Logicman said:
Bible-based Christians aren't going to Kow Tow to secular or ungodly whims. They have the "great commission" from Jesus.
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Do you speak jokingly now - or in earnest? :)
 
Logicman said:
Perhaps it's time for anti-Christian zealots to quit hanging around like vultures seeking to turn Christians from the truth of Jesus Christ. That's what the devil does. They're just storing up wrath for themselves come Judgment Day.
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Are you threatening us? :cool:
 
Elvira said:
I sure did...I can't understand anything for you...
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No, you didn't explain either. You just used one word to define the other. If we don't know what sin is or don't know what perfection is then how do we recognize either?

Saying that sin is missing the mark of perfection tells us nothing if we don't know what sin or perfection are. What does it mean to be perfect?
 
Logicman said:
Bible-based Christians aren't going to Kow Tow to secular or ungodly whims. They have the "great commission" from Jesus.

Perhaps it's time for anti-Christian zealots to quit hanging around like vultures seeking to turn Christians from the truth of Jesus Christ. That's what the devil does. They're just storing up wrath for themselves come Judgment Day.
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Until you can prove that Jesus ever actually existed that supposed "great commission" is no more real than Mickey Mouse or Peter Pan. The Bible and the Gospels are the work of mortal men who never met Jesus and it has never been fact-checked by either Jesus or your mythical god, despite what someone may have convinced you or what you want to believe.

How can there possibly be a super scary judgment day when there is no god? I am no more threatened by your claims of hell and damnation then I am by a child telling me that Santa won't bring me any presents until I give in to their demands for cookies before dinner.
 
devildavid said:
No, you didn't explain either. You just used one word to define the other. If we don't know what sin is or don't know what perfection is then how do we recognize either?

Saying that sin is missing the mark of perfection tells us nothing if we don't know what sin or perfection are. What does it mean to be perfect?
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Why do people worship a supposed loving God who made his creation sinful and fallible and then punishes them sinning when he had the power to make them perfect if you believe that their god is both omniscient and omnipotent? That is the mark of an incompetent or sadistic creator who obviously doesn't deserve to and should not be worshipped. We have consumer protection laws in the US to protect us from greedy shyster corporations who make harmful products and then blame us when we are hurt, so why should we not do the same to religions who sell this same line of nonsense to unthinkers believers?
 
Lisa said:
Why do people worship a supposed loving God who made his creation sinful and fallible and then punishes them sinning when he had the power to make them perfect if you believe that their god is both omniscient and omnipotent? That is the mark of an incompetent or sadistic creator who obviously doesn't deserve to and should not be worshipped.
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I have often asked myself exactly those questions!
 
Rumpel said:
I have often asked myself exactly those questions!
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If you knew your Bible, you would know that none of that is true...God's most outstanding attribute is love..."God is love" 1 John 4:8 and all His other attributes operate within the confines love...power, justice, and wisdom...
 
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