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Why Do Skeptics Go Out of Their Way to Bash Christians?

Magdalene said:
I really am curious. If you do not believe in God, our God or simply hate Him.... what is it that drives you to attack, belittle, criticize and make fun of those who do? Is it for sport? Something you enjoy? Do you think you will change our minds? :confused:
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You ask: "Why Do Skeptics Go Out of Their Way to Bash Christians?"

And now I ask: "Why do some evangelical fundamentalists go out of their way to bash Catholics?"
Why, oh why?
 
TheGoverness said:
I don't hate God. Neither do I belittle people simply for believing in God; that's not becoming. It's when it effects me or society in a negative way, that I get annoyed. I've had personal experiences in my life in which religion has affected me negatively, and it took me a whole lot to climb out of that hole. There's also stuff like anti-LGBT advocacy, or stupid bull**** like the "war" on Christmas. Or even proselytizing, and annoying me with invites to be a part of somebody's religion, of which I want nothing to do with.

I've got plenty of people in my life that are religious, and I think no lesser of them. I don't care that they believe in God.
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That's good enough for me. I feel the same about secularists/atheists.

But there are the very few who go out of their way to be asshats, whether it's those who continually tell others that they're going to burn in hell or those who make a point of being grossly offensive to those of faith.
 
Rumpel said:
You ask: "Why Do Skeptics Go Out of Their Way to Bash Christians?"

And now I ask: "Why do some evangelical fundamentalists go out of their way to bash Catholics?"
Why, oh why?
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Well, okay, what drives people to go out of their way to hurt others whose beliefs differ?
 
nota bene said:
That's good enough for me. I feel the same about secularists/atheists.

But there are the very few who go out of their way to be asshats, whether it's those who continually tell others that they're going to burn in hell or those who make a point of being grossly offensive to those of faith.
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Unfortunately, the asshats tend to have the loudest voices.
 
Magdalene said:
I really am curious. If you do not believe in God, our God or simply hate Him.... what is it that drives you to attack, belittle, criticize and make fun of those who do? Is it for sport? Something you enjoy? Do you think you will change our minds? :confused:
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Which Christians? The good hearted loving ones or the ones who use religion to promote hate and political agendas?

And I could make the exact same sentence and substitute Islamists for Christians and it would also make sense.
 
TheGoverness said:
I don't hate God. Neither do I belittle people simply for believing in God; that's not becoming. It's when it effects me or society in a negative way, that I get annoyed. I've had personal experiences in my life in which religion has affected me negatively, and it took me a whole lot to climb out of that hole. There's also stuff like anti-LGBT advocacy, or stupid bull**** like the "war" on Christmas. Or even proselytizing, and annoying me with invites to be a part of somebody's religion, of which I want nothing to do with.

I've got plenty of people in my life that are religious, and I think no lesser of them. I don't care that they believe in God.
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Yep. I could not care less what someone believes as long as they shut the **** up about it. But, once they open their yap, I am definitely going to tell them how stupid is the ****ing idiotic thing they believe, since I know I can prove it is:

1. Inconsistent with reality

2. Inconsistent within their own argument

3. Childishly simplistic when compared to the state of knowledge in the 21st century.
 
calamity said:
3. Childishly simplistic when compared to the state of knowledge in the 21st century.
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You mean dipping one bird in another bird's blood, and then sprinkling it on someone doesn't cure their leprosy? Surely you jest!
 
nota bene said:
Life is so short...I just don't understand why people can't just live and let live.
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Because that is not the religious way. Certainly not with the Abrahamic Gods.

They demand their followers kill non-believers. They demand their followers kill gays, and witches, and anyone else the true believers don't like. They endorse slavery and misogyny.

That is not live and let live.
 
JustHanging said:
Because that is not the religious way. Certainly not with the Abrahamic Gods.

They demand their followers kill non-believers. They demand their followers kill gays, and witches, and anyone else the true believers don't like. They endorse slavery and misogyny.

That is not live and let live.
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What overgeneralized nonsense.
 
Another question:

Why did Christians go out of their way to kill other Christians .... and "pagans" ..... and .... and .... and .....?
 
Personally I like my country because as it is now (not in the past) religion is now a purely personal thing and not a government enforced thing.

My mother lived in the most catholic part of my country and when she was young (she isn't anymore LOL, in fact last week she reached the nice age of 79) the government completely was in the pocket of the catholics. My mother was walking when a procession came by and when the priest was going to walk past (under his baldachin) all the catholics went down on their knees and when my mother did not do to the same she forced on her knees and the law did nothing. In fact in the West of the Netherlands, in the large cities the power of religion has ended and when people came to the province my mother lived in they were told to (for all the girls) take skirts with them because if they walked around in pants/shorts they would get a huge fine.

My grandmother worked for an organization that encouraged safe sex. You couldn't buy a condom to save your life in the region where they lived. The catholic church was all powerful and no pharmacy was going to go against the catholic church. So my grandmother, at night, when people could walk under cover of darkness, people would go to my grandmother's house to buy condoms (at cost). The issue with condoms was that this was going against the church's demand for large families.

It was so oppressive that if a couple had gotten married and the first child was not announced within the first half year (announced that they had gotten pregnant), the local priest would come to their house and question them as to why there wasn't a pregnancy yet.

You can understand that did endear catholics to my mother. Not being a catholic also worked against your ability to find a job. Not being catholic meant local companies would not hire you. Only nationally operating companies would hire someone who was not baptized.

Personally I went to a non-religious lower school, a protestant middle school and a catholic high school. In the Netherlands religious schools can get the same financial support as non-religious schools as long as they keep to the same curriculum. At the protestant school I went to we were taught about human sexuality when we were about 14. Quite open and honest. The class was a bit uncomfortable when my teacher started talking about wet dreams LOL.

Personally again, as an atheist I had many friends who were not really religious. I was a hard rocker/metal fan and most of my friends were the same. But overall I did not have a lot of negative dealings with christians.

But in later life I have had some. People saying I was going to go to hell if I did not join their religion. People telling me they would prey for my soul so that I would get into the only true religion and put my faith in Jesus.

My mother and grandparents have given me a lot of good basic rules to live by. Even if people have said to me that because I was not a christian I had no morality/moral compass. I have never insulted jehova's witnesses. Never threw the door into their face even though I secured many years of not being called upon when I talked for over half an hour at the door with them about the comparisons between all abrahamic religions and the ancient Egyptian gods. For some reason I did not have another jehova's witness at my door for more than 15 years LOL.

Faith is a great thing for some people. When I recovered from my gambling addiction I had people who took great comfort from their religion to get through their addiction and I was respectful of that because it was not my place to make disparaging comments about their faith, especially when they were struggling. The same was when I was trying to aid/help with the tragedy of a missing girl. I never at the forum discussed religion no matter how many times it came up.

But on this forum I discuss religion because there is a place for it here. I try not to be too impolite during the discussions and even though I might fail from time to time, but I do not want people to get the feeling I begrudge them their faith, I do not, but I also do not want to feel that I should have to defend my atheism or feel attacked because of that atheism. I am totally willing to answer my reasons for atheism but am not always willing to turn the other cheek if people make very unfair comments about my lack of having a faith.

Religion should mainly be a private thing, everybody should feel free to proudly stand up for their religion as long as they allow others to be of another religion or free from a religion. In a world like that I think people can be respectful and decent to all others.
 
Peter King said:
Personally I like my country because as it is now (not in the past) religion is now a purely personal thing and not a government enforced thing.

My mother lived in the most catholic part of my country and when she was young (she isn't anymore LOL, in fact last week she reached the nice age of 79) the government completely was in the pocket of the catholics.
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The government of the Netherlands in the pocket of the Catholics?
What kind of conspiracy theory is that then?
 
Magdalene said:
I really am curious. If you do not believe in God, our God or simply hate Him.... what is it that drives you to attack, belittle, criticize and make fun of those who do? Is it for sport? Something you enjoy? Do you think you will change our minds? :confused:
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Christians have had a stranglehold on American society since the beginning. If they kept it to themselves instead of trying to force their religion on everyone else using the force of government they wouldn't get as much criticism.
 
VanceMack said:
Its humorous that you think expecting people to follow rules and laws cannot be done without compassion or logic. I can only assume you have never been a parent.
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I'm a parent who makes logical and sensible rules for my children, rather than holding them to ridiculous ones that serve little to no reasonable purpose. I dont force my children to not put their elbows on the table for instance. Why? Because it is a stupid tradition thing that does nothing for you actually eating. I do greatly encourage holding open doors for people when you are the first there, whether men or women because it is courteous to do so. I let my children know why they are expected to do something, which has been shown to be the best way to have your rules enforced. "Because I said so" is probably the worst.

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Rumpel said:
The government of the Netherlands in the pocket of the Catholics?
What kind of conspiracy theory is that then?
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The one 70 years ago and not the entire country but the province where my mother lived. Other parts of the country were ruled by protestant parties and not catholic ones.
 
Magdalene said:
I really am curious. If you do not believe in God, our God or simply hate Him.... what is it that drives you to attack, belittle, criticize and make fun of those who do? Is it for sport? Something you enjoy? Do you think you will change our minds? :confused:
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Your god? That's the kind of thing that sets me off right there. Your god. Keep your god and stop trying to convince us who don't believe in your god we are wrong for not believing in a fairy tale person. Do you think posting this question for the one thousandth time it will change our minds?

Why do the religious folks have such a hard time understanding an atheist like me doesn't hate their god, I just don't believe in any god. Is that an attack?
Keep your god in your church or your home, with your guns.
 
roguenuke said:
I'm a parent who makes logical and sensible rules for my children, rather than holding them to ridiculous ones that serve little to no reasonable purpose. I dont force my children to not put their elbows on the table for instance. Why? Because it is a stupid tradition thing that does nothing for you actually eating. I do greatly encourage holding open doors for people when you are the first there, whether men or women because it is courteous to do so. I let my children know why they are expected to do something, which has been shown to be the best way to have your rules enforced. "Because I said so" is probably the worst.
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Oh, but sometimes it's the best response. I spent way too much time answering why's when my kids were young. My sister is now having an issue with her 7-year old, and only yesterday morning after yet another whinefest and refusal to dress for school, I texted her to tell him simply "Because I said so."

The first etiquette book written in English explained that correctly, one should scoop food with only two fingers rather than with the whole hand and that when blowing one's nose at the table, one should place a single finger on the nostril, turn to the left--never right--to blow onto the floor. The no-elbows thing has a practical history: No Elbows on the Table? | culinarylore.com

Elbows on the Table: Why Is It Considered Rude?
 
Magdalene said:
Why not keep your opinions on abortion, same sex marriage or even politics to yourself? Because it is an integral part of your belief system. But again I ask, why does it bother you to the point you lash out?
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It works both ways. Why do believers come here?
 
VanceMack said:
:lamo

Again...you miss the point...either out of capacity, or deliberately.
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you claimed that the left supports honor killings. You have not provided any quotes or any names of folks here or elsewhere on the left that supports it. So you were lying. Plain and simple. Your comments have been dismissed as trash.
 
calamity said:
Yep. I could not care less what someone believes as long as they shut the **** up about it. But, once they open their yap, I am definitely going to tell them how stupid is the ****ing idiotic thing they believe, since I know I can prove it is:

1. Inconsistent with reality

2. Inconsistent within their own argument

3. Childishly simplistic when compared to the state of knowledge in the 21st century.
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So, let me get this straight...you like hypocrites?

"For with the heart one exercises faith for righteousness, but with the mouth one makes public declaration for salvation." Romans 10:10
 
bongsaway said:
Your god? That's the kind of thing that sets me off right there. Your god. Keep your god and stop trying to convince us who don't believe in your god we are wrong for not believing in a fairy tale person. Do you think posting this question for the one thousandth time it will change our minds?

Why do the religious folks have such a hard time understanding an atheist like me doesn't hate their god, I just don't believe in any god. Is that an attack?
Keep your god in your church or your home, with your guns.
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I don't own a gun and I don't go to church...now what?
 
Magdalene said:
I really am curious. If you do not believe in God, our God or simply hate Him.... what is it that drives you to attack, belittle, criticize and make fun of those who do? Is it for sport? Something you enjoy? Do you think you will change our minds? :confused:
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It's largely due to the hive mind of the Left.
 
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