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    Re: Do Jews, Christians, and Muslims worship the same god.

    Quote Originally Posted by stevecanuck View Post
    Mohamed moved to Yathrib in 622. Within five years he either expelled, enslaved, or murdered every Jew from the three major tribes, and then renamed the city to Medina. So, not so much.
    Yes, things are not so golden and peaceful as some like to see it.
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    Re: Do Jews, Christians, and Muslims worship the same god.

    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    The Hebrew word "Elohim" is plural, meaning "gods".

    "In the beginning a group of gods (aliens) created the Heavens and the Garden."
    Considering that Jesus Christ was Jehovah's firstborn of all creation and all other things were created by means of Jesus, that is the "we" and "us" who was with Jehovah in the beginning...Colossians 1:15,16...
    "For the creation was subjected to futility, not by its own will, but through the one who subjected it, on the basis of hope that the creation itself will also be set free from enslavement to corruption and have the glorious freedom of the children of God. " Romans 8:20,21

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    Re: Do Jews, Christians, and Muslims worship the same god.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tanngrisnir View Post
    One of most basic laws of physics demontrates that the Great Flood of the bible is impossible.

    One has to believe in magic for it to be considered true.
    Believers in superstition are ripe for a conman.

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    Re: Do Jews, Christians, and Muslims worship the same god.

    Allah is the name of the only God in Islam. Allah is a pre-Islamic name coming from the compound Arabic word Al-ilah which means the God, which is derived from al (the) ilah (deity). The Arabic name for “God” is the word “Al-ilah.” It is a generic title for whatever god was considered the highest god. Before Muhammed that would have been "Hubal."

    Ishaq:85
    “Umar said, ‘By Allah I was by one of the idols of the Jahiliyyah. An Arab sacrificed a calf to it, and we were waiting for it to be divided up in order to receive a share. I heard coming from the belly of the calf a voice which was more penetrating than any I’ve heard. The dead calf’s belly said, ‘There is no ilah but Allah.'”

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    Re: Do Jews, Christians, and Muslims worship the same god.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yasureoktoo View Post
    Allah is the name of the only God in Islam. Allah is a pre-Islamic name coming from the compound Arabic word Al-ilah which means the God, which is derived from al (the) ilah (deity). The Arabic name for “God” is the word “Al-ilah.” It is a generic title for whatever god was considered the highest god. Before Muhammed that would have been "Hubal."

    Ishaq:85
    “Umar said, ‘By Allah I was by one of the idols of the Jahiliyyah. An Arab sacrificed a calf to it, and we were waiting for it to be divided up in order to receive a share. I heard coming from the belly of the calf a voice which was more penetrating than any I’ve heard. The dead calf’s belly said, ‘There is no ilah but Allah.'”
    Okay. That's what the link says too.

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    Re: Do Jews, Christians, and Muslims worship the same god.

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    God/Jesus/Holy Spirit aren't three Gods. They're one God.

    Saints aren't a Christian (big umbrella) thing -- they're a Catholic (small umbrella) thing.

    Snap crackle and pop, all in one neat Rice Krispie. It just doesn't wash.
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    Re: Do Jews, Christians, and Muslims worship the same god.

    Quote Originally Posted by stevecanuck View Post
    Mohamed moved to Yathrib in 622. Within five years he either expelled, enslaved, or murdered every Jew from the three major tribes, and then renamed the city to Medina. So, not so much.
    Then the last stand of the Jews was Khaybar. a massacre.

    An interesting footnote was the flotilla 10 years back.

    The battle cry of the Palestinians was " remember Khaybar.


    Tabari VII:97 “The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared, ‘Kill any Jew who falls under your power.’”
    Bukhari:V1B1N6 “Just issue orders to kill every Jew in the country.”

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    Re: Do Jews, Christians, and Muslims worship the same god.

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Just because you misread it, doesn't mean I said it.

    I said Christians were the big umbrella and Catholics are underneath that umbrella. Catholicism is a denomination of Christianity, it isn't all of Christianity.
    It was the only Christianity for 1500 of the last 2000 years, and remains the largest single denomination.
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    Re: Do Jews, Christians, and Muslims worship the same god.

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    It was the only Christianity for 1500 of the last 2000 years, and remains the largest single denomination.
    And? That doesn't change what I said.
    Not R or D 2020

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    Re: Do Jews, Christians, and Muslims worship the same god.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yasureoktoo View Post
    Then the last stand of the Jews was Khaybar. a massacre.
    An interesting footnote was the flotilla 10 years back.
    The battle cry of the Palestinians was " remember Khaybar.
    I did not know yet.
    Now I have read about it:

    The "religification", as it were, of the Mavi Marmara incident did not begin and end with activists chanting the Islamist refrain, "Remember Khaybar, Jews. The armies of Mohamed will return!" -- reference to the Battle of Khaybar, in 629, between Mohamed and his followers and the Jews of the Khaybar Oasis, and with similar strains echoing through numerous opinion articles in the press along with commentaries on satellite networks.
    Three Fallacies on the Flotilla - Carnegie Endowment for International Peace
    Non enim propter gloriam, divicias aut honores pugnamus set propter libertatem solummodo quam Nemo bonus nisi simul cum vita amittit.

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