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Things I like about the Catholic Church

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  • Baroque churches

    Votes: 5 26.3%

  • many saints

    Votes: 1 5.3%

  • incense

    Votes: 5 26.3%

  • candles

    Votes: 4 21.1%

  • Latin songs - e.g. the Gregorian chant

    Votes: 4 21.1%

  • simular liturgy worldwide

    Votes: 1 5.3%

  • May Altars

    Votes: 2 10.5%

  • processions, e. g. on Corpus Christi Day

    Votes: 3 15.8%

  • other things

    Votes: 7 36.8%

  • nothing

    Votes: 10 52.6%
  • Total voters
    19
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For a start: There a lots of things that I do not like about the Catholic Church.
But here I speak of the things that I like.
As polls are restricted to 10 options here, I can only name some.
 
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Now I hope somebody else dares to click onto anything here. :lol::mrgreen::lamo

If anyone has the courage to do so ....
 
I chose "Other Things" because while I'm not religious, I respect the Catholic Church's dedication to helping the downtrodden and the poor. Catholic Charities is one of the biggest charities in the world, and it takes part in helping pay medical bills among many other things.

I also like that the Church helps oppressed people escape, such as they did with the Jews in Hitler's Germany.
 
Piglet said:
I chose "Other Things" because while I'm not religious, I respect the Catholic Church's dedication to helping the downtrodden and the poor. Catholic Charities is one of the biggest charities in the world, and it takes part in helping pay medical bills among many other things.

I also like that the Church helps oppressed people escape, such as they did with the Jews in Hitler's Germany.
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Good reasons!
Yes, I have thought of those things, too!
 
What I like is that they've finally been served a ginormous piece of humble pie.

Anyone and everyone associated with that corporate juggernaut should be massively embarrassed and ashamed.
 
Piglet said:
I chose "Other Things" because while I'm not religious, I respect the Catholic Church's dedication to helping the downtrodden and the poor. Catholic Charities is one of the biggest charities in the world, and it takes part in helping pay medical bills among many other things.

I also like that the Church helps oppressed people escape, such as they did with the Jews in Hitler's Germany.
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Yep, they helped Nazi refugees and today, illegal immigrants.

Red Cross and Vatican helped thousands of Nazis to escape | World news | The Guardian
 
Piglet said:
I also like that the Church helps oppressed people escape, such as they did with the Jews in Hitler's Germany.
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That is right!

And many Catholic priests were arrested and put into Concentration camps because of their opposition to Hitler.
And many of them died there.

I name one example: Bernhard Lichtenberg.

The Blessed Bernhard Lichtenberg (3 December 1875 – 5 November 1943) was a German Roman Catholic priest and theologian, who died while in the custody of forces of the Third Reich. He has been awarded the title of Righteous among the Nations and has been beatified by the Catholic Church.

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He protested in person to Nazi officials against the arrest and killing of the sick and mentally ill, as well as the persecution of the Jews. At first, the Nazis dismissed the priest as a nuisance. Father Lichtenberg was warned that he was in danger of being arrested for his activities, but he continued nonetheless.

Deploring the regime of concentration camps like that of Dachau, he organized demonstrations against them outside certain camps.
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Bernhard Lichtenberg - Wikipedia
 
Btw: Hitler hated the Catholic Church.

And - it took some courage to oppose Hitler in those day.
Taking part in a procession on Corpus Christi Day was one of the ways to show one's opposition to Hitler openly.
And many Catholics did so.

And here is another example for Catholic opposition to Hitler:

Clemens Augustinus Emmanuel Joseph Pius Anthonius Hubertus Marie Graf von Galen (16 March 1878 – 22 March 1946), better known as Clemens August Graf von Galen, was a German count, Bishop of Münster, and cardinal of the Roman Catholic Church. During World War II, Galen led Catholic protest against Nazi euthanasia and denounced Gestapo lawlessness and the persecution of the church.
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Clemens August Graf von Galen - Wikipedia
 
I think it's time for a Video: :cool:

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A Corpus Christi procession in Munich, Bavaria :cool:
 
Rumpel said:
For a start: There a lots of things that I do not like about the Catholic Church.
But here I speak of the things that I like.
As polls are restricted to 10 options here, I can only name some.
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I wish there were options of more substance. Here, it's like asking for a restaurant review but excluding the food.
 
I noted down some of the things that I like about the Catholic Church.
8 of them
Especially things that can be seen or heard.
I did not want to specialize in theories.
It is my own list - somebody else may create other lists of their own.

And of course I did not note down things that I do not like.
 
Btw: We have 8 voters now.
And 2 of the votes go to Baroque churches.
The one church that I had in mind was the church of Birnau near the Lake of Constance. :)
 
Rumpel said:
For a start: There a lots of things that I do not like about the Catholic Church.
But here I speak of the things that I like.
As polls are restricted to 10 options here, I can only name some.
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I am not a Catholic nor a big fan either. But one thing I like about it is how they introduced Greek philosophy to western civilization; and with it, critical thought and questioning. From Augustine to Aquinas, I think this was a critical step to the European enlightenment and the scientific revolution.

But I see it as a ladder: once it's been used to climb to where you need to be, you don't need it anymore.
 
Here is some info about the church of Birnau at the Lake of Constance

Chorus of angels above the vineyards

Nestling among the picturesque vineyards high above the lake rises the slender pinky-white tower of the magnificent baroque church of Birnau. Walking through the gates of this place of worship, visitors are transported to a different world filled with baroque opulence and religious devotion. The sparkling ornamentation and figures of angels sculpted by Joseph Anton Feuchtmayer and the bold ceiling painting by the artist Gottfried Bernhard Göz lend the church - built in 1750 and dedicated to the Virgin Mary - a festive splendour, and it is not for nothing that Birnau is considered the most beautiful baroque church in the region.
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Text and picture: Wallfahrtskirche Birnau am Bodensee | Lake Constance Tourism
 
ataraxia said:
I am not a Catholic nor a big fan either. But one thing I like about it is how they introduced Greek philosophy to western civilization; and with it, critical thought and questioning. From Augustine to Aquinas, I think this was a critical step to the European enlightenment and the scientific revolution.

But I see it as a ladder: once it's been used to climb to where you need to be, you don't need it anymore.
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No one can see what's wrong with this picture in light of Christianity? SMH...
 
ataraxia said:
Noooo, not really.... :thinking
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"Look out that no one takes you captive by means of the philosophy and empty deception according to human tradition, according to the elementary things of the world and not according to Christ;" Colossians 2:8
 
Elvira said:
"Look out that no one takes you captive by means of the philosophy and empty deception according to human tradition, according to the elementary things of the world and not according to Christ;" Colossians 2:8
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So is this an invitation to close the eyes, ears, and minds and stop all critical thinking and questioning? No one can see what's wrong with this picture in light of Christianity and its history? SMH...

"Question with boldness even the existence of a god; because if there be one he must approve of the homage of reason more than that of blindfolded fear."
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 10, 1787
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Rumpel said:
For a start: There a lots of things that I do not like about the Catholic Church.
But here I speak of the things that I like.
As polls are restricted to 10 options here, I can only name some.
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When I travel, I love going to Catholic Churches, and try to see all the historic ones where ever we are. So much art and history. So much beauty. And sitting through a service in a cathedral like Notre Dame is amazing, you can close your eyes, and imagine what it must have been like in the Middle Ages. The incence, the latin liturgy.

My favourite was seeing St. Valentine's actual skull and finger bones by happenstance in Rome.

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And seeing Vasco de Gama's tomb in Jeronimos Monastery in Lisbon.

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Rumpel said:
I noted down some of the things that I like about the Catholic Church.
8 of them
Especially things that can be seen or heard.
I did not want to specialize in theories.
It is my own list - somebody else may create other lists of their own.

And of course I did not note down things that I do not like.
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How about Sagrada Familia :)

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And the stained glass set into alcoves so you get beautiful waves of colour....

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But if you spend some time in Barcelona, and ask about going to services, the local Catholics poo-poo this masterpiece. They'll tell you that the true heart of Barcelona is the Santa Maria Del Mar, the people's church. They say it was paid for by the parishioners, and belongs to the parishioners.

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Some of the most beautiful heavenly music you may ever hear. Listen to the soprano singing up into the stratosphere like an angel. She sounds absolutely ethereal and otherworldly.

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This music was written in the early 1600s and was considered so powerful that the full score was kept secret for 150 years. It was written for 9 voices separated into two choirs. Only the Pope, the choirmaster of the Vatican, and one other person had access to the full score.

That was until 1770 when a precocious 14 year old boy heard it, was deeply moved by it, memorized all the parts by memory on his first and only hearing. He came home, transcribed it, and smuggled it out of Rome.

The boy’s name? Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart.
 
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JustHanging said:
When I travel, I love going to Catholic Churches, and try to see all the historic ones where ever we are. So much art and history. So much beauty. And sitting through a service in a cathedral like Notre Dame is amazing, you can close your eyes, and imagine what it must have been like in the Middle Ages. The incence, the latin liturgy.
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Talking of Notre Dame: Wasn't it a real shock to hear the news when it burned down. :(
 
It's OK to date a Nun.

Just don't get in the habit.
 
@ talking of Notre-Dame cathedral

I can remember, that when it burned down, some evangelical fundamentalists were full of glee and Schadenfreude because this "pagan building" was now destroyed.

I won't comment on that .....
 
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