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Beliefs and Skepticism

Natural selection is a process not a being (entity?) with supernatural powers. Note the lack of any mention of a supernatural being in the following link.

natural selection | Definition & Processes | Britannica

So, natural selection is a process which affects changes for good in biological bodies but which process has no power, no brains, no plan, no design, no origin and no measurable attributes? From where did this invisible force for effecting miracles get its origin and power? Humans don't even have such a power as natural selection is believed by some to possess.
 
So, natural selection is a process which affects changes for good in biological bodies but which process has no power, no brains, no plan, no design, no origin and no measurable attributes? From where did this invisible force for effecting miracles get its origin and power? Humans don't even have such a power as natural selection is believed by some to possess.

Nope, the changes (genetic alterations) occur naturally, as does which of them (over several generations) are proven to be successes, inconsequential or failures to their progeny's fate. Humans actually possess the power to overcome their (natural) genetic fate by artificially altering (natural) immunity from diseases via vaccination and/or surgically correcting certain birth defects detrimental to survival and continued breeding.
 
Nope, the changes (genetic alterations) occur naturally, as does which of them (over several generations) are proven to be successes, inconsequential or failures to their progeny's fate. Humans actually possess the power to overcome their (natural) genetic fate by artificially altering (natural) immunity from diseases via vaccination and/or surgically correcting certain birth defects detrimental to survival and continued breeding.

Poorly skilled scientists see changes taking place in biologic forms and ignorantly attribute those changes to something they call natural selection. which they have never seen nor measured because it has no material properties which can be detected. They would attribute the origin of those abilities to change to God if not for their atheistic biases and bad propagandist training which opposes such a consideration.
 
Poorly skilled scientists see changes taking place in biologic forms and ignorantly attribute those changes to something they call natural selection. which they have never seen nor measured because it has no material properties which can be detected. They would attribute the origin of those abilities to change to God if not for their atheistic biases and bad propagandist training which opposes such a consideration.

Yep, the only (scientifically?) correct answer to everything is that God works in mysterious ways. ;)
 
Yep, the only (scientifically?) correct answer to everything is that God works in mysterious ways. ;)

Darwinian science subgroup promotes the idea that nobody, especially not God, created the universe and life on earth.
 
Darwinian science subgroup promotes the idea that nobody, especially not God, created the universe and life on earth.

OK, do have proof that somebody did so and continues to do so?
 
Your "god of gaps fallacy" is itself a fallacy, promoted by your guru Dopey Dick Dawkins and spread like crabs by New Atheists through the internet.
And speaking of "trying this crap before," your New Atheist crap takes the prize.

Do you have nothing to say beyond sounding like a child trying out swearing for the first time?
 
Lol. Right,


it was rejected .....without any explanation as to why! :lol:



All you guys managed to squeak was to whine - "NO! IT CAN'T BE TRUE! YOU'RE LYING! "



Lol. Plain and simple - You can't sensibly refute what I said in that post #316. :shrug:

I did, it is god of gaps fallacy. It is relying on the idea that because an answer is not immediate then you can create a mystery where none exists.

And i did not say it cannot be true, you are lying. I said You have no idea what the answer is so instead are distorting the situation to fit your own fantasy version.
 
Your "god of gaps fallacy" is itself a fallacy, promoted by your guru Dopey Dick Dawkins and spread like crabs by New Atheists through the internet.
And speaking of "trying this crap before," your New Atheist crap takes the prize.

The god of the gaps fallacy has a history that goes much further back than Dawkins. A christian named Henry Drummond once "promoted" it as a fallacy to other Christians.
 
Do you have nothing to say beyond sounding like a child trying out swearing for the first time?
You see any swearwords in my post, sport? You see any words? I think not. Your post is auto-pilot personal derogation.
 
The god of the gaps fallacy has a history that goes much further back than Dawkins. A christian named Henry Drummond once "promoted" it as a fallacy to other Christians.
So Google is your friend after all! Now what's your point?
 
You see any swearwords in my post, sport? You see any words? I think not. Your post is auto-pilot personal derogation.
As was yours.
No, not so. Behold:

My Post
Your "god of gaps fallacy" is itself a fallacy, promoted by your guru Dopey Dick Dawkins and spread like crabs by New Atheists through the internet.
And speaking of "trying this crap before," your New Atheist crap takes the prize.

Your Post
Do you have nothing to say beyond sounding like a child trying out swearing for the first time?

My post is about the content of your post, Richard Dawkins, New Atheism -- nothing personal in it.
Your post is about me.

Consider this a lesson both in close-reading and self-knowledge and say "Thank You, Angel."
 
No, not so. Behold:

My Post


Your Post


My post is about the content of your post, Richard Dawkins, New Atheism -- nothing personal in it.
Your post is about me.

Consider this a lesson both in close-reading and self-knowledge and say "Thank You, Angel."

Your new atheism lies are nothing more than a way for you to insult atheists. other than that your propaganda has no value. Of course your words are personal, they are meant to insult.

As usual you have nothing of any value to offer .
 
Internet Skepticism
or the Colonoscopical Grasp of Reality

Beliefs and Skepticism

Belief - acceptance of an idea as true; the idea so accepted
Skepticism - doubt about the truth of an idea; the doubt itself


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The Blind Men and the Elephant
by John Godfrey Saxe (1816-1887)

It was six men of Indostan,
To learning much inclined,
Who went to see the Elephant
(Though all of them were blind),
That each by observation
Might satisfy his mind.

The First approach'd the Elephant,
And happening to fall
Against his broad and sturdy side,
At once began to bawl:
"God bless me! but the Elephant
Is very like a wall!"

The Second, feeling of the tusk,
Cried, -"Ho! what have we here
So very round and smooth and sharp?
To me 'tis mighty clear,
This wonder of an Elephant
Is very like a spear!"

The Third approach'd the animal,
And happening to take
The squirming trunk within his hands,
Thus boldly up and spake:
"I see," -quoth he- "the Elephant
Is very like a snake!"

The Fourth reached out an eager hand,
And felt about the knee:
"What most this wondrous beast is like
Is mighty plain," -quoth he,-
"'Tis clear enough the Elephant
Is very like a tree!"

The Fifth, who chanced to touch the ear,
Said- "E'en the blindest man
Can tell what this resembles most;
Deny the fact who can,
This marvel of an Elephant
Is very like a fan!"

The Sixth no sooner had begun
About the beast to grope,
Then, seizing on the swinging tail
That fell within his scope,
"I see," -quoth he,- "the Elephant
Is very like a rope!"

And so these men of Indostan
Disputed loud and long,
Each in his own opinion
Exceeding stiff and strong,
Though each was partly in the right,
And all were in the wrong!

MORAL,

So, oft in theologic wars
The disputants, I ween,
Tread on in utter ignorance
Of what each other mean;
And prate about an Elephant
Not one of them has seen!

Just so a Seventh stumbles in,
A skeptic, I presume,
And overreaches from behind
In atheistic gloom
Denying what the blind can see
The Elephant in the room

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The theme of the classic poem in the new light of the amended verse is that while the skeptic doubts the conclusions of the blind men as to the nature of the beast,
the skeptic misses the very existence of the beast he knows intimately.

Comments?
Questions?
Doubts?
Denials?


Blind Men and the Elephant
John Godfrey Saxe - Poems by the Famous Poet - All Poetry
NB Last stanza composed by Angel Trismegistus.
 

Come on, don't let the facts interfere with a vapid rant. ;)

So Google is your friend after all! Now what's your point?

What was yours?
My point -- the point here -- is that the "god of the gaps" concept originally was a theologian's criticism of a faith that only saw God's action in miracles (in the "gaps" in scientific or rational explanation) whereas God's action in the world is continuous and at all times, not just in miracles.

The "god of the gaps" originally was a call to recognize the all-sustaining role of God in his Creation.

Dawkins and the other three of the Four Horse's Asses of Atheism co-opted the phrase without understanding it, distorted its meaning, and turned it to atheist propaganda and polemics.

And the good little followers of Guru Dawkins keep repeating it and repeating it in its bastardized form crying wee, wee, wee all the way home.
 
My point -- the point here -- is that the "god of the gaps" concept originally was a theologian's criticism of a faith that only saw God's action in miracles (in the "gaps" in scientific or rational explanation) whereas God's action in the world is continuous and at all times, not just in miracles.

Which is utterly meaningless as it is still an example of an argument from ignorance fallacy. The 'god of the gaps' is simply a colloquial name for an argument from ignorance fallacy and if you read the supplied link you might have learned something.

The "god of the gaps" originally was a call to recognize the all-sustaining role of God in his Creation.

So you assert, but it is immaterial, as it is still an example of an argument from ignorance fallacy and you cannot demonstrate otherwise, and that is why you resort to this silliness instead. No wonder no one takes you seriously.

Dawkins and the other three of the Four Horse's Asses of Atheism co-opted the phrase without understanding it, distorted its meaning, and turned it to atheist propaganda and polemics.

There it is! The usual brain dead rant of no merit. Your hatred for thinkers is quite irrational, and rather funny. It says much about you though.

And the good little followers of Guru Dawkins keep repeating it and repeating it in its bastardized form crying wee, wee, wee all the way home.

Grow the **** up for a change and accept the reality of the fallacy or demonstrate where it fails without mere assertion. Oh, that's right, you have never been able to demonstrate your assertions regarding the fallacy and you simply fling childish insults which only serve to make you look foolish. As I told you from day one, it doesn't matter where it came from, it is still a logical fallacy and every thinker recognises this except you. Why is that? :D

This garbage you continually post is just a cover for your inability to deal with the fallacy, as well as your inability to debate like an adult, and sticks out like a third testicle on a greyhound. Now please stop filling my notifications with your mindless drivel, as I do not want to waste my time on your vacuous stupidity. I'm tired of asking you this, as I come here to debate a subject, not to be subject to idiotic arguments from assertion from the uneducated.
 
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Which is utterly meaningless as it is still an example of an argument from ignorance fallacy. The 'god of the gaps' is simply a colloquial name for an argument from ignorance fallacy and if you read the supplied link you might have learned something.

So you assert, but it is immaterial, as it is still an example of an argument from ignorance fallacy and you cannot demonstrate otherwise, and that is why you resort to this silliness instead. No wonder no one takes you seriously.


There it is! The usual brain dead rant of no merit. Your hatred for thinkers is quite irrational, and rather funny. It says much about you though.


Grow the **** up for a change and accept the reality of the fallacy or demonstrate where it fails without mere assertion. Oh, that's right, you have never been able to demonstrate your assertions regarding the fallacy and you simply fling childish insults which only serve to make you look foolish. As I told you from day one, it doesn't matter where it came from, it is still a logical fallacy and every thinker recognises this except you. Why is that? :D

This garbage you continually post is just a cover for your inability to deal with the fallacy, as well as your inability to debate like an adult, and sticks out like a third testicle on a greyhound. Now please stop filling my notifications with your mindless drivel, as I do not want to waste my time on your vacuous stupidity. I'm tired of asking you this, as I come here to debate a subject, not to be subject to idiotic arguments from assertion from the uneducated.

Maybe you'd care to repeat your personal mantra again:

It is still an example of an argument from ignorance fallacy.
It is still an example of an argument from ignorance fallacy.
It is still an example of an argument from ignorance fallacy.


You've made Dopey Dick Dawkins proud with this post.

And some of our members with a taste for the absurd in humor will surely get a kick out of reading Spook's post with this indictment of his in mind:
You simply fling childish insults which only serve to make you look foolish
 
Maybe you'd care to repeat your personal mantra again:

It is still an example of an argument from ignorance fallacy.
It is still an example of an argument from ignorance fallacy.
It is still an example of an argument from ignorance fallacy.


You've made Dopey Dick Dawkins proud with this post.

And some of our members with a taste for the absurd in humor will surely get a kick out of reading Spook's post with this indictment of his in mind:

And to prove my point you double down on the childishness without demonstrating why the argument from ignorance/god of the gaps argument is false (I know full well you're incapable of it, so you have to sling mud instead). You can now return to flinging poo and I will continue to ignore your stupid posts, as your flame baiting is infantile.

Your arrogance is unsupported by your intellect, and I don't believe I've ever encountered a more puerile debate style than yours. Remarkable, for your posts are the nadir of philosophical discourse, and that's quite an achievement.
 
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And to prove my point you double down on the childishness without demonstrating why the argument from ignorance/god of the gaps argument is false (I know full well you're incapable of it, so you have to sling mud instead). You can now return to flinging poo and I will continue to ignore your stupid posts, as your flame baiting is infantile.

Your arrogance is unsupported by your intellect, and I don't believe I've ever encountered a more puerile debate style than yours. Remarkable, for your posts are the nadir of philosophical discourse, and that's quite an achievement.

"You simply fling childish insults which only serve to make you look foolish."
—NWO_Spook
 
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