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Beliefs and Skepticism

devildavid said:
The elephant parable supports skepticism.
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Angel said:
Read through to the end.
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In the event you don't understand the instruction or fail to carry it out or carry it out and fail to understand withal:
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Last stanza composed by Angel Trismegistus.


Just so a Seventh stumbles in,
A skeptic, I presume,
And overreaches from behind
In atheistic gloom
Denying what the blind can see
The Elephant in the room

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The theme of the classic poem in the new light of the amended verse is that while the skeptic doubts the conclusions of the blind men as to the nature of the beast, the skeptic misses the very existence of the beast he knows intimately.
 
Angel said:
In the event you don't understand the instruction or fail to carry it out or carry it out and fail to understand withal:
​


Last stanza composed by Angel Trismegistus.


Just so a Seventh stumbles in,
A skeptic, I presume,
And overreaches from behind
In atheistic gloom
Denying what the blind can see
The Elephant in the room

ZkGXIFQ.jpg

The theme of the classic poem in the new light of the amended verse is that while the skeptic doubts the conclusions of the blind men as to the nature of the beast, the skeptic misses the very existence of the beast he knows intimately.
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bad attempt at poetry especially as you are the one at the rear
 
Angel said:
Beliefs and Skepticism

Belief - acceptance of an idea as true; the idea so accepted
Skepticism - doubt about the truth of an idea; the doubt itself​
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Angel said:
What is "Internet Skepticism?

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Posted below are links to a respected philosophical website giving the various iterations of True Skepticism down the ages right up to the present:
Ancient Skepticism
Ancient Skepticism (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)

Medieval Skepticism
Medieval Skepticism (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)

Skepticism
https://plato.stanf

Traditionally skepticism is a serious philosophical position calling for the suspension of judgment, of belief and disbelief both.
In the modern era this has taken on the character of questioning the possibility of all knowledge.
I don't see the Internet Skeptic anywhere in that survey of historical skepticism.

Internet Skepticism is exclusively an ad hoc skepticism, focused entirely and misguidedly on religious belief.
Internet Skepticism is all about the 3Ds -- Denial, Dismissal, Disparagement.

Internet Skepticism is not skepticism.
Internet Skepticism is close-minded catchphrase-driven contrarianism with a marked tendency to blowhardism and browbeating.
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As has been borne out by their posts to this thread, Internet Skepticism is not true philosophical skepticism; rather, it is a mixture of antagonistic, derogatory, bullying and close-minded contrarianism paraded under the banner of skepticism.
 
Angel said:
As has been borne out by their posts to this thread, Internet Skepticism is not true philosophical skepticism; rather, it is a mixture of antagonistic, derogatory, bullying and close-minded contrarianism paraded under the banner of skepticism.
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That's ok, because as I pointed out earlier, there is no such thing as true philosophical skepticism. And skepticism does not need to fit your narrow view as you are not an authority on the subject.
 
devildavid said:
That's ok, because as I pointed out earlier, there is no such thing as true philosophical skepticism. And skepticism does not need to fit your narrow view as you are not an authority on the subject.
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An authority like yourself, huh?
 
Angel said:
An authority like yourself, huh?
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It only takes a little thinking to know that philosophical skepticism is not just one narrow view or the only form of skepticism.
 
devildavid said:
It only takes a little thinking to know that philosophical skepticism is not just one narrow view or the only form of skepticism.
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It takes a little more thinking on your part to see that Internet Skepticism is no form of philosophical skepticism.
 
Angel said:
It takes a little more thinking on your part to see that Internet Skepticism is no form of philosophical skepticism.
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You haven't even correctly described what either form of skepticism is, or what skepticism is generally.
 
Angel said:
In the event you don't understand the instruction or fail to carry it out or carry it out and fail to understand withal:
​


Last stanza composed by Angel Trismegistus.


Just so a Seventh stumbles in,
A skeptic, I presume,
And overreaches from behind
In atheistic gloom
Denying what the blind can see
The Elephant in the room

ZkGXIFQ.jpg

The theme of the classic poem in the new light of the amended verse is that while the skeptic doubts the conclusions of the blind men as to the nature of the beast, the skeptic misses the very existence of the beast he knows intimately.
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Your ending verse, with its usual fascination with fecal matter, does not even follow logically from the content of the original parable or evidence any real insight from it.
 
devildavid said:
Your ending verse, with its usual fascination with fecal matter, does not even follow logically from the content of the original parable or evidence any real insight from it.
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At last at least you've read the OP through. Hallelujah!
 
Angel said:
In the event you don't understand the instruction or fail to carry it out or carry it out and fail to understand withal:
​


Last stanza composed by Angel Trismegistus.


Just so a Seventh stumbles in,
A skeptic, I presume,
And overreaches from behind
In atheistic gloom
Denying what the blind can see
The Elephant in the room

ZkGXIFQ.jpg

The theme of the classic poem in the new light of the amended verse is that while the skeptic doubts the conclusions of the blind men as to the nature of the beast, the skeptic misses the very existence of the beast he knows intimately.
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It behooves me, I suppose, given the depth of figuration involved, to point out to the Internet Skeptic that "The Elephant in the room" refers to God.
 
Angel said:
An authority like yourself, huh?
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My authority in this forum is exactly the same as you and every other person that posts here. Authority means nothing when anonymous posters express themselves. So we must be equally correct or incorrect in our views. It is not possible to establish if any views here are authoritative.
 
Angel said:
It behooves me, I suppose, given the depth of figuration involved, to point out to the Internet Skeptic that "The Elephant in the room" refers to God.
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That is one narrow interpretation, informed by your prejudice.
 
Angel said:
No, the clue is in the Saxe poem proper. Your reading "experience" is showing, I'm afraid.
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Another ad hominem attack.

The elephant is not god. That is your personal interpretation. All such writing is open to various interpretations.
 
devildavid said:
Another ad hominem attack.

The elephant is not god. That is your personal interpretation. All such writing is open to various interpretations.
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I'm afraid your skills in reading poetry are inadequate.
 
devildavid said:
...The elephant is not god. That is your personal interpretation. All such writing is open to various interpretations.
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It's the interpretation the poet directs us to at the end of his poem:

MORAL,

So, oft in theologic wars
The disputants, I ween,
Tread on in utter ignorance
Of what each other mean;
And prate about an Elephant
Not one of them has seen! ​

Oy!
 
Angel said:
And it's the poet's interpretation that The Trismegist carries through in his brilliant scathing send-up of Internet Skepticism.
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Wow you really really have nbo clue what the poem means do you?
 
Angel said:
Are you familiar with poetry? Have you ever read any? Who's your favorite poet?
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Yes I am, Poe is probably my favorite
 
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