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[W: 418] What all atheists believe

Quag said:
Some?
I never thought there could be such a thing as an extremist agnostic then Frank showed up and now you re telling me there are more of him?
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Being vague to avoid breaking the rules.:)
 
Norml said:
I have you at a disadvantage. I read the OP.

You found some dictionary definitions you like. Isn't that peachy.

I heard of a white girl, with two white parents, four white grandparents, refer to herself as "black" , or "negro" .
Maybe all those people calling themselves Caucasian, should start being truthful.

People are permitted to call themselves anything they want. When the expect the educated public to go along with them, mental illness may be an issue.
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Alt-right crazy talk. Bye.
 
Norml said:
There are authorities on such matters.
This is about the meaning of words.

You are free to call a dog a lion, and horse a duck.
Expect others to disagree with you.

The word "atheist" is about beliefs, and/or knowledge.
That is the business of philosophy.
The experts in philosophy say agnostics are not atheists. The beliefs are mutually exclusive. One can not have the belief there is no god, and at the same time, say they are undecided about the existence of god.
Mutually exclusive groups, according to the people who get paid for defining certain words.

Your acceptance of their facts, is inconsequential.
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Agnosticism and atheism are not beliefs.
 
Norml said:
That accepted professional language puts certain meaning to certain words.
In particular, there is widespread acceptance among professionals that agnostics are not atheists.
That is factual information.
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There is no accepted professional language.
 
I distinguish between what I purport to know and what I purport to believe. Agnostic atheism - Wikipedia "Agnostic atheism is a philosophical position that encompasses both atheism and agnosticism. Agnostic atheists are atheistic because they do not hold a belief in the existence of any deity and agnostic because they claim that the existence of a deity is either unknowable in principle or currently unknown in fact.
The agnostic atheist may be contrasted with the agnostic theist, who believes that one or more deities exist but claims that the existence or nonexistence of such is unknown or cannot be known.[1][2][3]"

I am an example of the former. I readily admit that I do not know if God or deities exist. I do not believe in any as existing.
 
Re: What all atheists believe

Frank Apisa said:
In the area of "atheist" "theist" "agnostic"...it probably is best NOT to use a descriptor at all...

...and instead just state your position as clearly as you are able.

I used to use the descriptor "agnostic" for myself...but now I state my position:

I do not know if gods exist or not;
I see no reason to suspect gods CANNOT EXIST...that the existence of gods is impossible;
I see no reason to suspect that gods MUST EXIST...that gods are needed to explain existence;
I do not see enough unambiguous evidence upon which to base a meaningful guess in either direction...

...so I don't.

And I refer back to my stated position during discussions.
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Those who profess ignorance about the origin of life are better than those who absolutely insist God had nothing to do with it.
 
btthegreat said:
I distinguish between what I purport to know and what I purport to believe. Agnostic atheism - Wikipedia "Agnostic atheism is a philosophical position that encompasses both atheism and agnosticism. Agnostic atheists are atheistic because they do not hold a belief in the existence of any deity and agnostic because they claim that the existence of a deity is either unknowable in principle or currently unknown in fact.
The agnostic atheist may be contrasted with the agnostic theist, who believes that one or more deities exist but claims that the existence or nonexistence of such is unknown or cannot be known.[1][2][3]"

I am an example of the former. I readily admit that I do not know if God or deities exist. I do not believe in any as existing.
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I am a peanut butter and jelly atheist. That is an atheist who enjoys peanut butter and jelly.
 
btthegreat said:
What kind of a peanut butter and jelly atheist are you? I am a raspberry one.
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I have it on good authority they have no belief about raspberry jelly.
Now raspberry jam, many beliefs about that, from what I hear.
 
Norml said:
I have it on good authority they have no belief about raspberry jelly.
Now raspberry jam, many beliefs about that, from what I hear.
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The "Jamming" congregation and denomination were disbanded in 2018 by an almost unanimous vote in the FSM council meeting in Humbolt providence. Jelly worships are still accepted in general conference but have become somewhat controversial in the Marinara and Verde practices.
 
tecoyah said:
The "Jamming" congregation and denomination were disbanded in 2018 by an almost unanimous vote in the FSM council meeting in Humbolt providence. Jelly worships are still accepted in general conference but have become somewhat controversial in the Marinara and Verde practices.
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The IPU council overrules any FSM decision.
Even atheists have their priorities.
 
The International Pasta Union hold no sway in the United States, Canada, China or Spain amongst others and is generally ditched like stale breadstix.
 
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