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Atheists Don't Exist

Lisa said:
I am a critical thinker educated in logic so I don't turn it off for anyone or anything, ever. I do not enjoy reading fiction for that reason.

You want me to stop being logical so I will embrace your sloppy fallacious religious thinking but it isn't going to happen because my brain doesn't work that way.
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I want you to stop the auto-pilot posts and to start posting in good faith, engaging my points -- my points -- and cut out the generalized anti-religious talking points.
 
Lisa said:
The Islamic religion refers to their god as Allah in English. In the Arabic language, Allah means god.
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No, they refer to him as 'allah' in Arabic, and 'God' in English. And just to be exact, allah means 'the god' in Arabic.
 
Angel said:
Your post is evidence of something that does not exist: understanding.
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And your post is evidence of your propensity to indulge in ad hominem attacks.

So how is everything evidence? It is not. It is only evidence of physical reality. Something physical I'd not evidence for something non physical.
 
Angel said:
Real evidence, demonstrative evidence, circumstantial evidence, and testimonial evidence.

How do you come to know what qualifications are necessary to Godhead?
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In other words, not evidence at all.
 
Angel said:
You, me, my two cats.

That second sentence in your post is a dilly. I'm tempted to go hard on it, but I won't. Let's just both acknowledge that when it comes to Godhead neither of us knows what we're talking about, okay?
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So one cat is circumstantial evidence and the other is testimonial evidence? Or is that just what you named them?
 
CharisRose said:
Have you debated with Angel about your matter of concern related to his ideas presented on his thread?

On this thread Angel is playing the role of a skeptic and is using the rules of the skeptic.

The skeptic is asking you to prove your claim that you are an atheist not that you are a person that exists in the physical world.

There is a difference between the two ideas. If, we met you in real life. We would instantly know you are a physical human being that exists in the physical world.

What we would not know just by looking at you is that you are an atheist existing in the physical world in a physical body.

As a fellow human being standing before us...what empirical evidence could you use to prove to us that you are actually an atheist existing in a human body?

Roseann:)
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To follow your logic you and Angel are not theists. Yet not one skeptic has ever said that or asked for proof from either you. I can play any word game you like, but all you and angel are doing is creating a straw man version of a skeptic. No skeptic is creating a straw man version of a theist. They are not saying theists can't exist. They are questioning the content of the belief. Since atheism is not a belief, it has no content to question. How can you be skeptical of something that isn't there? Skeptics question the validity of all beliefs for which there is no supporting evidence, not that people have beliefs in such things. What content of the lack of belief in gods do you want skeptics to question?
 
Angel said:
Of course he did. He's been denying his embarrassment for over a year. On several occasions I've reminded him of his exchange of posts with CharisRose way back when, and he pretends he doesn't know what I'm talking about and just asserts some silliness about his rutabaga -- as if that exchange never happened or as if I'm misrepresenting it. He relies on no one currently posting remembering that exchange.
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I see that you have not found your rutabaga yet. Enlightenment awaits you when you do.
 
devildavid said:
And your post is evidence of your propensity to indulge in ad hominem attacks.

So how is everything evidence? It is not. It is only evidence of physical reality. Something physical I'd not evidence for something non physical.
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And your posts continue to display chutzpah and lack of understanding.
 
Angel said:
How would you know?
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because just like Harry Potter and Voldemort, god, the devil, Ra, Anubis, Osiris, etc. etc. etc. are made up by human beings for human beings (not always in a positive way).
 
Angel said:
The smug ignorance of your post is duly noted.
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Still with the ad hominem.

You listed four types of evidence. I was just matching it up sequentially to your answer.
 
Angel said:
No, these "other words" in your post are the words of close-minded self-satisfied ignorance only.
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More ad hominem.

How do you determine what ignorance is, let alone whether or not it is self-satisfied? And being open minded does not mean being open to anything that anyone can imagine or make up. Your mind is closed to the possibility of a godless universe. Find your rutabaga, and open your mind!
 
Angel said:
And your posts continue to display chutzpah and lack of understanding.
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You really need to stop with the ad hominem posts.

Chutzpah is a good thing!

So, how is the physical evidence of the non physical?
 
Peter King said:
because just like Harry Potter and Voldemort, god, the devil, Ra, Anubis, Osiris, etc. etc. etc. are made up by human beings for human beings (not always in a positive way).
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How do you know?
 
devildavid said:
I don't have egg on my face. Your misrepresentation of my posts does not put egg on my face.
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Three members remember that long-ago exchange of posts -- CharisRose, Angel, and devildavid -- and two remember it accurately.
 
Angel said:
Three members remember that long-ago exchange of posts -- CharisRose, Angel, and devildavid -- and two remember it accurately.
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Two misrepresented it both then and now.
 
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