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[W:1,199]God is Real

Enough fun and games! Back to business:

Angel said:
GOD IS REAL

A Note on the Thread
Contrary to 2500 years of philosophy and natural philosophy and 400 years of modern science, as well as the last 15 years of militant atheism, the existence of God is not something to be known; it is not a matter of knowledge, the existence of God. No, the existence of God (to be distinguished conceptually from the nature of God, which is the province of religion and properly so) -- the existence of God is a matter of judgment, of discernment. The existence of God is a value, a value discovered in and through the things of the world. God, the existence of God, is the value discovered in the world by unclouded percipience.

The Argument
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
The eye of the beholder sees Beauty in a thing.

The eye of a second beholder may miss seeing the Beauty in the thing that the first beholder sees,
but sees Beauty in another thing.

Both see the Beauty of things, but in and through different things.

The eye of a third beholder may miss the Beauty of the things seen as Beautiful by the first and second beholders,
and yet see Beauty in a third thing.

All three see the Beauty of things in different things.
The Beauty they see is as Real as the things they see Beauty in.

A fourth beholder sees Beauty in nothing.
His eye is deficient: his eye is purblind.

Beauty is as Real as the world in which Beauty is seen.

Do you have an eye for Beauty?


God is in the eye of the beholder.
The eye of the beholder sees God in a thing.

The eye of a second beholder may miss God in that thing
and see God in another thing.

Both see God in things but in different things.

The eye of a third beholder may miss God in the two things
and see God in a third thing.

All three see God in different things.
God is as Real as the things they see God in.

A fourth beholder sees God in nothing.
His eye is deficient: his eye is purblind.

God is as Real as the world in which God is seen.

Do you have an eye for God?

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And again the study guide.

Angel said:
Tips For the Perplexed​

Terms

Real = existing
Ideal = of the mind
Experience = of the senses

1. The world is Real. (Naive Realism)
2. The world as experienced is Real. (Empiricism)
3. The world as experienced is Ideal. (Idealism)
4. The world is the Ideal in the Real.

5. Beauty is Ideal.
6. Beauty is experienced in the Real.
7. Beauty is the Ideal in the Real.

8. God is Ideal.
9. God is experienced in the Real.
0. God is the Ideal in the Real.

The world, Beauty, and God all enjoy the same ontological status.
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"I got a million of them, folks!"​
 
Angel said:
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Angel said:

A Note on the Thread
Contrary to 2500 years of philosophy and natural philosophy and 400 years of modern science, as well as the last 15 years of militant atheism, the existence of God is not something to be known; it is not a matter of knowledge, the existence of God. No, the existence of God (to be distinguished conceptually from the nature of God, which is the province of religion and properly so) -- the existence of God is a matter of judgment, of discernment. The existence of God is a value, a value discovered in and through the things of the world. God, the existence of God, is the value discovered in the world by unclouded percipience.​
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See the previous page for the argument and study guide.
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Or see the previous pages for the frivolous posts by proponents of Internet Skepticism, posts which go a long way toward making the OP case against Internet Skepticism.
 
Dismissal is a dish best served stale.
 
Angel said:
Angel's Three Theses

God is real as Beauty is real.

God is real as Pain is real.

God is real as Color is real.


God is Real.​
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QED, ladies and germs.
 
devildavid said:
So if delusions are real, god could be a real delusion.
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devildavid said:
If delusions are real, god could be a real delusion.
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devildavid said:
God is a real delusion.
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devildavid said:
God is a real delusion.
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Your posts in this thread alone illustrate 8 out 10.

Angel said:
Top Ten Reasons To Deplore Internet Skepticism

Please Note
deplore = feel or express strong disapproval of (something).
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10. Because Internet Skepticism lacks Intellectual Integrity.

9. Because Internet Skepticism does not take correction gracefully or else does not take correction at all.

8. Because Internet Skepticism usually doesn't know what it's talking about, yet nevertheless won't stop talking about what it doesn't know.

7. Because Internet Skepticism usually doesn't understand or misunderstands or deliberately misrepresents what its oppoents are talking about.

6. Because Internet Skepticism is unoriginal and chiefly relies on second-hand opinion with pretensions to authority.

5. Because Internet Skepticism does not listen and cannot learn, which is the very soul of stupidity.

4. Because Internet Skepticism is habitually coarse and vulgar, mocking and bullying, with a marked propensity to rely on emojis to these ends.

3. Because Internet Skepticism is malicious in intent and as a result given to the personal derogation of those who dare to oppose it.

2. Because Internet Skepticism routinely posts in bad faith, ignoring refutation and correction and persistently repeating points previously dispatched by opponents.


And the number one reason to deplore Internet Skepticism:


1. Because Internet Skepticism is the militant arm of Internet Atheism in mufti.
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Internet Skepticism: Casting Call
 
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"It ain't what they call you, it's what you answer to."​
 
devildavid said:
God is a real delusion.
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devildavid said:
God is a real delusion.
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devildavid said:
God is a real delusion.
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devildavid said:
God is a real delusion.
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devildavid said:
God is a real delusion.
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devildavid said:
God is areal delusion.
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Malicious mischief. Disgraceful conduct in an adult.
Angel said:
Top Ten Reasons To Deplore Internet Skepticism

Please Note
deplore = feel or express strong disapproval of (something).
​

10. Because Internet Skepticism lacks Intellectual Integrity.

9. Because Internet Skepticism does not take correction gracefully or else does not take correction at all.

8. Because Internet Skepticism usually doesn't know what it's talking about, yet nevertheless won't stop talking about what it doesn't know.

7. Because Internet Skepticism usually doesn't understand or misunderstands or deliberately misrepresents what its oppoents are talking about.

6. Because Internet Skepticism is unoriginal and chiefly relies on second-hand opinion with pretensions to authority.

5. Because Internet Skepticism does not listen and cannot learn, which is the very soul of stupidity.

4. Because Internet Skepticism is habitually coarse and vulgar, mocking and bullying, with a marked propensity to rely on emojis to these ends.

3. Because Internet Skepticism is malicious in intent and as a result given to the personal derogation of those who dare to oppose it.

2. Because Internet Skepticism routinely posts in bad faith, ignoring refutation and correction and persistently repeating points previously dispatched by opponents.


And the number one reason to deplore Internet Skepticism:


1. Because Internet Skepticism is the militant arm of Internet Atheism in mufti.[/CENTER]
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