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    God is Real

    GOD IS REAL

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    Contrary to 2500 years of philosophy and natural philosophy and 400 years of modern science, as well as the last 15 years of militant atheism, the existence of God is not something to be known; it is not a matter of knowledge, the existence of God. No, the existence of God (to be distinguished conceptually from the nature of God, which is the province of religion and properly so) -- the existence of God is a matter of judgment, of discernment. The existence of God is a value, a value discovered in and through the things of the world. God, the existence of God, is the value discovered in the world by unclouded percipience.

    The Argument



    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
    The eye of the beholder sees Beauty in a thing.

    The eye of a second beholder may miss seeing the Beauty in the thing that the first beholder sees,
    but sees Beauty in another thing.

    Both see the Beauty of things, but in and through different things.

    The eye of a third beholder may miss the Beauty of the things seen as Beautiful by the first and second beholders,
    and yet see Beauty in a third thing.

    All three see the Beauty of things in different things.
    The Beauty they see is as Real as the things they see Beauty in.

    A fourth beholder sees Beauty in nothing.
    His eye is deficient: his eye is purblind.

    Beauty is as Real as the world in which Beauty is seen.

    Do you have an eye for Beauty?


    God is in the eye of the beholder.
    The eye of the beholder sees God in a thing.

    The eye of a second beholder may miss God in that thing
    and see God in another thing.

    Both see God in things but in different things.

    The eye of a third beholder may miss God in the two things
    and see God in a third thing.

    All three see God in different things.
    God is as Real as the things they see God in.

    A fourth beholder sees God in nothing.
    His eye is deficient: his eye is purblind.

    God is as Real as the world in which God is seen.

    Do you have an eye for God?


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    Re: God is Real

    At the very least if he does exist, pretty piss poor god in my opinion when you look at the state of the world.

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    Re: God is Real

    It's quite telling how important it is to you that you constantly have to try to convince Internet strangers god is real. Do you start these threads to convince yourself foremost?

    To date you've never provided a single shred of evidence to back up your assertion that god is real.

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    Re: God is Real

    Why was God a deadbeat Dad?
    To live is to suffer~Fritz Lang

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    Re: God is Real

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    At the very least if he does exist, pretty piss poor god in my opinion when you look at the state of the world.
    The state of the world is the result of free will, given to man by God. As stated in 1John 5:19 " We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    At the very least if he does exist, pretty piss poor god in my opinion when you look at the state of the world.
    When you tell someone your way is the best way to live and they don't believe you, how do you prove that to them?
    "For the creation was subjected to futility, not by its own will, but through the one who subjected it, on the basis of hope that the creation itself will also be set free from enslavement to corruption and have the glorious freedom of the children of God. " Romans 8:20,21

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    Re: God is Real

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvira View Post
    When you tell someone your way is the best way to live and they don't believe you, how do you prove that to them?
    You've assumed that there's one right way to live that is perfect for everybody. In reality it's incredibly subjective. My idea of a perfect life is radically different from yours. You can't even get Christians to agree on one single way.

    Why do you feel you need to convince others we should all adopt your way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    It's quite telling how important it is to you that you constantly have to try to convince Internet strangers god is real. Do you start these threads to convince yourself foremost?

    To date you've never provided a single shred of evidence to back up your assertion that god is real.
    Did you realize your post, helps " provide a single shred of evidence" , that bible prophesies are true?
    2 Peter: 3&4 states "Above all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. 4 They will say, “Where is this ‘coming’ he promised? Ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation."
    Sort of like you are doing......

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    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    You've assumed that there's one right way to live that is perfect for everybody. In reality it's incredibly subjective. My idea of a perfect life is radically different from yours. You can't even get Christians to agree on one single way.

    Why do you feel you need to convince others we should all adopt your way?
    No human has found it now, have they? What human can rid mankind of sickness, old age, death, and all things evil? Besides, you still did not answer my question...
    Last edited by Elvira; 12-07-19 at 04:34 PM.
    "For the creation was subjected to futility, not by its own will, but through the one who subjected it, on the basis of hope that the creation itself will also be set free from enslavement to corruption and have the glorious freedom of the children of God. " Romans 8:20,21

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    Re: God is Real

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvira View Post
    No human has found it now, have they? What human can rid mankind of sickness, old age, death, and all things evil? Besides, you still did not answer my question...
    I did answer your question. I told you there is no one right way to live that fits everyone. Now you're trying to tell me you and your fellow Christians have rid mankind of sickness, old age, death and all things evil with your lifestyle? Why do you lie so freely? You know good and well your life style doesn't do those things.

    Why don't you answer my question? Why is it so important for you to want to impose your ideal lifestyle on others as if that fits us?

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