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I Challenge Atheists to Submit a Proof of Their Claim that God Does Not Exist

Elvira said:
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Angel just figured out the spiritual man and the physical man are on 2 different planes of understanding...never shall the 2 meet...no amount of reasoning will do unless the Father draws him...

"But a physical man does not accept the things of the spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot get to know them, because they are examined spiritually." 1 Corinthians 2:14

"No man can come to me unless the Father, who sent me, draws him," John 6:44
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Self fulfilling prophecies anyone.
 
Elvira said:
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Angel just figured out the spiritual man and the physical man are on 2 different planes of understanding...never shall the 2 meet...no amount of reasoning will do unless the Father draws him...

"But a physical man does not accept the things of the spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot get to know them, because they are examined spiritually." 1 Corinthians 2:14

"No man can come to me unless the Father, who sent me, draws him," John 6:44
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And how is that more than unsupported claims and gobble gook?
 
Elvira said:
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Angel just figured out the spiritual man and the physical man are on 2 different planes of understanding...never shall the 2 meet...no amount of reasoning will do unless the Father draws him...

"But a physical man does not accept the things of the spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot get to know them, because they are examined spiritually." 1 Corinthians 2:14

"No man can come to me unless the Father, who sent me, draws him," John 6:44
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Actually Angel is trying and failing to prove his beliefs rather than accepting them on faith.
Only those lacking faith require proof
 
Quag said:
Actually Angel is trying and failing to prove his beliefs rather than accepting them on faith.
Only those lacking faith require proof
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Proof is different for the physical man than it is for the spiritual man...
 
Elvira said:
Proof is different for the physical man than it is for the spiritual man...
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Yes, spiritual man is very gullible.

Believing in gods since time immemorial, with almost no evidence, other than "The Sun goes across the sky, so it must be pulled by my god!" or some such "proof."
 
JustHanging said:
Yes, spiritual man is very gullible.

Believing in gods since time immemorial, with almost no evidence, other than "The Sun goes across the sky, so it must be pulled by my god!" or some such "proof."
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The physical man sees only the physical with the naked eye...the spiritual man sees beyond the physical with eyes of faith...
 
Elvira said:
Proof is different for the physical man than it is for the spiritual man...
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One is based on empirical data, the other on imagination.
 
Elvira said:
The physical man sees only the physical with the naked eye...the spiritual man sees beyond the physical with eyes of faith...
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Yeah, like I said spiritual man is gullible, they believe without reasonable evidence. This is why there are thousands upon thousands of cases of spiritual causes being replaced with natural causes, but there isn't one natural cause replaced with a spiritual cause.
 
Mashmont said:
Angel and I have both penned logical proofs showing God does exist. In my decades in chat. I've only seen atheists demanding proof, but never offering proof of THEIR position, or even attempting to do so.

So the purpose of this thread is for atheists to offer a logical proof or any kind of proof that the God of Abraham doesn't exist. This thread is NOT for rebuttal of Angel's proof or my proof. You may do that in those other threads, not here.

This thread is for atheists to put their money where their mouths are. And please don't cower like little mewlings and say "No, no. We don't have to prove there is no God. We just want to be left alone." That defense works only if you admit to being agnostic and saying "I don't know". But most of you atheists state emphatically the positive claim that God doesn't exist and you come with an activist agenda. So you need to be put on the burner and forced to prove your position.

Prediction: Not one single atheist will offer a proof, because it's a lie. It's like trying to write a book on 'winning roulette moves' It's like trying to prove blue is green or up is down.

So let's see what you got. You have the floor, atheists........
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Prove you don't have a ghost hanging out in your living room.

/end thread
 
Elvira said:
Anyone who's never experienced it would think that...
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Yet, you can not show that is true. I would judge that by who it effects people, and their actions. Many who make that claim are some of the most obnoxious and rudest people around. And none of the ones that make that claim show any great insight into people.
 
RAMOSS said:
Yet, you can not show that is true. I would judge that by who it effects people, and their actions. Many who make that claim are some of the most obnoxious and rudest people around. And none of the ones that make that claim show any great insight into people.
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Well, ya know what they say...takes one to know one...;)
 
Elvira said:
Proof is different for the physical man than it is for the spiritual man...
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Fo the spiritual man to convince another spiritual man with a different view of his proof you will find they disagree as to what proof is. Not so for those dealing with the physical
Only those lacking faith require proof
 
Quag said:
Fo the spiritual man to convince another spiritual man with a different view of his proof you will find they disagree as to what proof is. Not so for those dealing with the physical
Only those lacking faith require proof
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Wrong...I think you'll find most, if not all spiritual men, will agree on what the proof of God is...
 
Elvira said:
Wrong...I think you'll find most, if not all spiritual men, will agree on what the proof of God is...
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And quite a number of them will claim that God is Jesus. In fact, most of the ones who claim to be spiritual men in the USA will.
 
RAMOSS said:
And quite a number of them will claim that God is Jesus. In fact, most of the ones who claim to be spiritual men in the USA will.
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What does doctrine have to do with proof of God? Nothing...
 
Elvira said:
What does doctrine have to do with proof of God? Nothing...
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absoltely everything, actually. because it defined 'what is God'.
 
RAMOSS said:
absoltely everything, actually. because it defined 'what is God'.
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Um, no it doesn't...we're not talking about a definition...only about the existence...
 
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Elvira said:
Um, no it doesn't...we're not talking about a definition...only about the existence...
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I suspect that a number of them will disagree. I know 'what is God' is essential about existence. In the case of the Tritarians, God is Jesus... and the father and the son. That is part of their spiritual evidence.
 
RAMOSS said:
I suspect that a number of them will disagree. I know 'what is God' is essential about existence. In the case of the Tritarians, God is Jesus... and the father and the son. That is part of their spiritual evidence.
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Wrong again...the topic is about the existence of God in creation versus something else causing all things to be...do try to keep up and stop changing the subject...
 
Elvira said:
Wrong again...the topic is about the existence of God in creation versus something else causing all things to be...do try to keep up and stop changing the subject...
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You certainly can not support that opinion. And, no, I am not changing the subject. I am disagreeing with your opinion, and showing where it is false.
 
RAMOSS said:
You certainly can not support that opinion. And, no, I am not changing the subject. I am disagreeing with your opinion, and showing where it is false.
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This is the topic at hand..."I Challenge Atheists to Submit a Proof of Their Claim that God Does Not Exist"...so yes, you are changing the subject and trying to interject something entirely different into the conversation, so you've only proven you cannot stay on topic nor do you know what's being discussed...
 
Elvira said:
This is the topic at hand..."I Challenge Atheists to Submit a Proof of Their Claim that God Does Not Exist"...so yes, you are changing the subject and trying to interject something entirely different into the conversation, so you've only proven you cannot stay on topic nor do you know what's being discussed...
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And, what atheist says that? They say 'there is no evidence that any God exists, therefore I don't believe in a God'.

And, I was addressing your specific claim, and showed it was false.
 
RAMOSS said:
And, what atheist says that? They say 'there is no evidence that any God exists, therefore I don't believe in a God'.

And, I was addressing your specific claim, and showed it was false.
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Wrong...this comment has nothing to do with the existence of God so if anyone made a false claim it's you...

RAMOSS said:
And quite a number of them will claim that God is Jesus. In fact, most of the ones who claim to be spiritual men in the USA will.
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