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Proof God Exists: Here is my 11-Step Logical Proof. Enjoy.

Jay59 said:
This thread is proof that you can prove anything with the right assumptions. Equating good with wise is a new one and would not be willing to make it.
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It does require the acceptance of basic assumptions.
 
Dragonfly said:
Absolutely NOTHING that you posted is "proof" of anything other than your own personal delusion.




Not gonna happen because it's perhaps one of the lamest, and most pathetic attempts at exposing "proof" that's been posted here in quite a long time.
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Long on insults. Short on rebuttal. That's the atheist way.
 
JustHanging said:
WTH?

You've said "Universally" believed, the "Majority" believe, and now the "vast majority" believe. You move the goalposts ever time you talk about the saints.

Any chance you can quit moving them for at least one post?
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Nothing inconsistent among the three. But I said universally believed except for small sliver of atheist loons.
 
Dragonfly said:
You've yet to provide anything even remotely resembling "logic". When you find some, try again.



You won't reach anyone with the moronic drivel you've posted in the OP.
Not one.
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Long on insults. Short on rebuttal. That's the atheist way.
 
When porn is your 'bible', and masturbation is your 'church's' main sacrament, it's easy to see why atheism never catches on.
 
Elvira said:
If you made any sense whatsoever, I might just talk to you once in awhile but since you don't, I won't...:confused::doh
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ill give it another shot
 
Elvira said:
"For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who do not, no proof is possible." - Stuart Chase
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have some one show up who can bend reality to ther will


its just no one like that is around
 
OrphanSlug said:
You cannot uses Postulate statements as "logic proof" without some system of process behind them, which is why outside of science most often these statements are nothing more than beliefs used to structure definitions. Every single one of your statements, without exception, is what you would like to believe is so. But, that does not make any one of them so.

You believe God exists, and you probably do within the confines of your systems of belief which is the underline fault in everyone trying to do what you have done.
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Proof that the big bang created the universe and not God, from a secular hedonist point of view:

Scientists can measure elements and cannot measure God, and, furthermore, scientists can theorize about things they can see but cannot theorize about things they cannot see so the big bang theory is science and creation by God is not.
 
Mashmont said:
Again, we're talking about the view of the vast majority of rational people; not the few leftist atheist cranks.
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You realize that Catholic “saints” aren’t even recognized by the majority of Christians, let alone the majority of rational people, right?
 
This thread fails in the OP at step one of the argument. There are plenty of wise people who are also evil and plenty of good people who are dumber than a box of rocks.
 
Mashmont said:
When porn is your 'bible', and masturbation is your 'church's' main sacrament, it's easy to see why atheism never catches on.
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The Catholic Church prefers altar boys to masturbation.
 
Dragonfly said:
So what you're saying is:

Things exist. Some of it is pretty.
I can't explain how it's all happened in the way that is has.

THEREFORE GOD!!!!
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And what exactly are you saying, pilgrim?

Things exist. Some of it is pretty.
I can't explain how it's all happened in the way that is has.

THEREFORE NOT GOD!!!!

Remember the Remini!
 
marke said:
Proof that the big bang created the universe and not God, from a secular hedonist point of view:

Scientists can measure elements and cannot measure God, and, furthermore, scientists can theorize about things they can see but cannot theorize about things they cannot see so the big bang theory is science and creation by God is not.
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Humans like to think they can understand things beyond their ability to comprehend, which is why they reject the possibility of God and latch onto silly secular theories they think proves life and matter somehow originated without God.
 
Dragonfly said:
As I've said, when some people will believe the earth is flat, and some will believe the Noah & The Ark story is literal fact, it's no wonder there's some who'll believe the tripe in post #1 makes sense.


It's just a good thing there's quite a few others who view it as nothing more than delusional idiocy.
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Militant atheism seems to be surrounded by "delusional idiocy." How is this to be explained?
Remember the Remini!
 
Dragonfly said:
...You won't reach anyone with the moronic drivel you've posted in the OP.
Not one.
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Ish Kabibble! Militant atheism seems to see "moronic drivel" everywhere it looks. How is this to be explained?
Remember the Remini!
 
Mashmont said:
Heavy on the insults. Light on the rebuttals. That's the atheist way.
But I will comment on number three. Not talking about ability. Talking about judgment and decision making.
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You show no ability to make judgements based on facts. Just emotion desperately trying to justify its' self with psudo-logic drivel.

Argumnet has to start with fact. Evidence. So the evidence that your OP shows, that it is drivel with no logical flow to it, no facts to start with, is the ammunition I use to show why it is drivel. Lack of facts.

Then I am able to show that this is the case with each line of your drivel.

There is nothing really to rebut.

Then you come back with an almost zero referance to your origonal argument just an emotional snap back at me. The single bit you think will stand up at all is;

3 Therefore, if a person is wise in one area, he is wise across the board.
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Which is wrong. Just because a farmer is wise and good at farming his farm in Kentucky does not mean he will be any good doing the same in Nrothern India. That's not even any sort of across the board. This is he is not necessarily wise in his own narrow field of farming. Ask again; have you ever tried thinking before?
 
I think more evidence my proof is valid is to look at the extremes of both types. Without exception, canonized saints had a daily dialogue, a prayer session with God. They were extremely devout. And led great lives as, again, recognized by the vast majority of reasonable people. Contrast that with the most strident outspoken atheists. Those people are NEVER recognized as truly great people by anyone. They are never the ones who devote their lives in service to others. Most of the time, they are mired in self-destructive habits and other forms of self-indulgence. Note the key word, SELF.
 
Tim the plumber said:
You show no ability to make judgements based on facts. Just emotion desperately trying to justify its' self with psudo-logic drivel.

Argumnet has to start with fact. Evidence. So the evidence that your OP shows, that it is drivel with no logical flow to it, no facts to start with, is the ammunition I use to show why it is drivel. Lack of facts.

Then I am able to show that this is the case with each line of your drivel.

There is nothing really to rebut.

Then you come back with an almost zero referance to your origonal argument just an emotional snap back at me. The single bit you think will stand up at all is;



Which is wrong. Just because a farmer is wise and good at farming his farm in Kentucky does not mean he will be any good doing the same in Nrothern India. That's not even any sort of across the board. This is he is not necessarily wise in his own narrow field of farming. Ask again; have you ever tried thinking before?
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Again, wisdom does not mean aptitude in a given field of study. It is overall judgment and treatment of other people.

In sending out the Twelve, Jesus said to them, “Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves” (Matthew 10:16, KJV).

That's the kind of wisdom I'm talking about.
 
Questerr said:
You realize that Catholic “saints” aren’t even recognized by the majority of Christians, let alone the majority of rational people, right?
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Most Christians would say canonized saints were good people, even if they may not believe in canonization. It's only the fringe nuts who say they were evil people.
 
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