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Scientifically Wrong Answers OK, if Religious?

...all evidence to the contrary.

I'll agree there's a limit to how much you can "pull out and replace", but in this case we're talking about maybe two or three doctrines with virtually no utility, and no applicability to 99.99...% of science, knowledge, and industry. I know evolution especially is a great god on a hill for some atheists, but aside from some implications to phylogeny, and some fantastically contrived arguments about how the theory "helps" bioengineering, it has no predictive power, no consistent axioms, no industrial or commercial utility, no observable implications in non-geological timeframes, and more holes than Swiss cheese shot through with an Uzi. In fact, I'd argue its sole utility is that many atheists believe it disproves the Bible. Ergo its "great god on hill" status and militant orthodoxy.


Ipse dixit.


This I agree with.

To be precise, I don't believe any student is "misled". I think they know perfectly well the difference between taking something from scripture and taking something from empirical observation. However, I do think they need to learn that in some contexts, such as school exams, they just have to buckle down and say, "The exam wants the answer based on the current scientific consensus and not scripture. So be it." Such is life.


I would point out, again, that 99.99...% of students pursuing post-graduate studies are going to go into fields where it doesn't matter one whit whether or not they believe in evolution, the Deluge, etc., but otherwise, yes, I agree that "scripture says so" won't fly at a university.

You literally cannot excel in any form of biology or medical science if you reject evolutionary theory. It is a major bedrock of our understanding. Its not just a pillar for atheists.
 
So you don't follow OT laws? I guess you have no position on the LGBT issue?

Yes, I follow the 10 commandments. What do you want me to do, get a circumcision?

Drop it, you lost.
 
Well, I remember when atheists used to tell me to "educate myself". So I did, while they got dumber.

lol...I can show you 100's of things people used to believe god did that science proved he didn't. Show me one thing scientists said happened naturally that you can prove god did.

I'll wait.
 
Actually, you MISquoted the Bible in a manner that fundies use all the time, it's called "proof texting".

What are you talking about, I quoted the bible.

Or do you mean expecting Jesus to be able to write a coherent sentence is expecting too much, and we need to give his words a different meaning than what he actually wrote?

And I did give you an answer but you weren't able to recognize it when you saw it.

No, you couldn't give a coherent answer so you whinged and threatened to run away and hide.

So, you sound like a fundie. That kinda makes you proud, doesn't it?

I've never made any bones about the fact that Trump is the perfect representative for Christian America. He has the same morals and values. Just like they're laid out in the bible.

And you agree with me:

I don't know, ask the idiots who keep saying that voting for Trump goes against Jesus.
 
Argument by Repetition

Argument by Repetition
argumentum ad nauseam

(also known as: argument from nagging, proof by assertion)

Description: Repeating an argument or a premise over and over again in place of better supporting evidence.

Logical Form:

X is true. X is true. X is true. X is true. X is true. X is true... etc.

Example #1:

That movie, “Kill, Blood, Gore” deserves the Oscar for best picture. There are other good movies, but not like that one. Others may deserve an honorable mention, but not the Oscar, because “Kill, Blood, Gore” deserves the Oscar.

Explanation: There are no reasons given for why, Kill, Blood, Gore deserves the Oscar, not even any opinion shared. All we have is a repeated claim stated slightly differently each time.

LOL, good try with the Red Herring

Let's try again. Jesus said:

Matthew 5:18
For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.


You said this only applies to moral laws:

and number two, that is not a moral law.

I quoted Jesus saying not a jot or tittle can be changed. You just said all the jots and tittles can be changed, so long as we're not changing moral laws.

So, why do you think you know what Yahweh wants more than Jesus himself?
 
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What word games? I told you that the pastors told me the same thing. They told me to educate myself which I did.

That's what made me an atheist: I read the bible cover to cover.
 
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Yep. And he'll surely lose his license, and sued to his eyeballs.


Anyway...….That's a contradiction!
Why would he become a doctor? Surely, that kind of belief will see doctors as evil? :lamo


Oh boy - you're missing something here.

The doctor who values life and believes that healing is his calling, will do his best to heal his patient.
If he makes healing his own ministry - as a devotion to God - so much the better! Not only that, he'll be praying too, as he do it!

The BEST DOCTOR he'll be!


Btw, Christians don't believe that illnesses and sufferings are necessarily punishments from God. Think of Job, as an example.

Focus on the family types do.
 
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Who said Christianity will be taught on schools?




Oh man, you guys better get a grip! You're like overblowing this, and panicking! :lol:
Just look at Justhanging - he started raising the Trump card! :lamo


Why does the very term "CREATIONISM" seems to scare the wits out you? Lol.
Even the National Academy of Sciences had all but plainly stated that creation by God is possible!

Therefore, you can say that...…………………. creationism isn't exactly un-scientific! :mrgreen:

No they stated the private beliefs of certain scientists.
 
What word games? I told you that the pastors told me the same thing. They told me to educate myself which I did.

They told you what? That atheists had gotten dumber, because that's what I said.
 
lol...I can show you 100's of things people used to believe god did that science proved he didn't. Show me one thing scientists said happened naturally that you can prove god did.

I'll wait.

How about the hundreds of things that scientists said that were crap? Like stomach ulcers, for example, that "scientists" thought were caused by spicy food? Turns out they're caused by bacterial infection, or long term use of nsaids. The planet Vulcan, which really doesn't exist. Martian canals? The ether? Prenology? The static universe? Cold fusion?

Atheism is as much of a religion as it thinks Christianity is.
 
No. Pastors told me to educate myself. I did and they got dumber.

I educated myself and atheists got dumber. They now think their idiotic arguments are exegesis.
 
How about the hundreds of things that scientists said that were crap? Like stomach ulcers, for example, that "scientists" thought were caused by spicy food? Turns out they're caused by bacterial infection, or long term use of nsaids. The planet Vulcan, which really doesn't exist. Martian canals? The ether? Prenology? The static universe? Cold fusion?

You didn't answer the question. We can name literally thousands of things that were once explained by a god, but turned out have a naturalist explanation. Name one thing, just ONE, that had a naturalistic explanation, and is now explained by god.

Atheism is as much of a religion as it thinks Christianity is.

You clearly don't know what religion or atheism is. Atheism is lacking belief in a god, nothing more. Is being an ASantist, lacking belief in Santa, a religion?
 
I educated myself and atheists got dumber. They now think their idiotic arguments are exegesis.

If our arguments are "idiotic" why are you unable to refute a single one, and instead are forced to resort to insults and running away?
 
You didn't answer the question. We can name literally thousands of things that were once explained by a god, but turned out have a naturalist explanation. Name one thing, just ONE, that had a naturalistic explanation, and is now explained by god.



You clearly don't know what religion or atheism is. Atheism is lacking belief in a god, nothing more. Is being an ASantist, lacking belief in Santa, a religion?

You don't make the rules here. What are you afraid of? Are you afraid that "Science" will be fallible after all is said and done? If so, that's not "science".
 
If our arguments are "idiotic" why are you unable to refute a single one, and instead are forced to resort to insults and running away?

I have, you are just unable to see it. If I am insulting you it's because you don't know what I am saying.
 
It didn't say that a scientist's belief in god had anything to do with science at all.


It didn't?

Read again - SLOWLY.




The National Academy of Sciences also says:

"Many religious persons, including many scientists, hold that God created the universe and the various processes driving physical and biological evolution and that these processes then resulted in the creation of galaxies, our solar system, and life on Earth.

This belief, which sometimes is termed 'theistic evolution,' is not in disagreement with scientific explanations of evolution.

Indeed, it reflects the remarkable and inspiring character of the physical universe revealed by cosmology, paleontology, molecular biology, and many other scientific disciplines."
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Toi aussi?
Problems with comprehension too? Just like...…. Justhanging and Calamity? You ramble too - so much like each other!

What are you folks - CLONES?
 
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