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Proof of God

Individual said:
I clarified it as you didn't seem to understand what I was asking.

Now, for the 26th time:

The existence of the Universe, Life on Earth, and Consciousness, are self evident.
Can you show any evidence, proving that each, or any of them were created by a supernatural being/entity you call God?

YES or NO?

If YES, please do so.
If NO, then admit it.
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He cant say yes and wont say no because it means his "arguments" are worthless. He will never answer this question All you will get is deflection and insult. Basically its all Angel has ever had.
Cue complaints that others are refusing to engage, which is actually what he always does
 
Individual said:
I clarified it as you didn't seem to understand what I was asking.

Now, for the 26th time:

The existence of the Universe, Life on Earth, and Consciousness, are self evident.
Can you show any evidence, proving that each, or any of them were created by a supernatural being/entity you call God?

YES or NO?

If YES, please do so.
If NO, then admit it.
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On the contrary, you misspoke. Then denied that you misspoke. And have carried this nonsense on ever since.
 
Individual said:
Yet science marches forward looking for answers, asking questions, and learning more.
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You actually want to pretend there's no epistemological problem here?

Bleating out "science marches forward" here is a meaningless thing to say in this discussion like saying "Yet freedom marches forward for us all" in response to revelations about Trump's incompetence.

Fine so you really don't want to discuss this, OK, I'l leave you alone to continue your obsessive complaining about Angel.
 
Sherlock Holmes said:
You actually want to pretend there's no Go with God. problem here?

Bleating out "science marches forward" here is a meaningless thing to say in this discussion like saying "Yet freedom marches forward for us all" in response to revelations about Trump's incompetence.

Fine so you really don't want to discuss this, OK, I'l leave you alone to continue your obsessive complaining about Angel.
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Go with God.
 
Angel said:
On the contrary, you misspoke. Then denied that you misspoke. And have carried this nonsense on ever since.
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Then this thread is nonsense.
I've been attempting to engage you on your claimed to be "Proof of God".

So, for the 28th time:

The existence of the Universe, Life on Earth, and Consciousness, are self evident.
Can you show any evidence, proving that each, or any of them were created by a supernatural being/entity you call God?

YES or NO?

If YES, please do so.
If NO, then admit it.
 
Angel said:
It's elementary, Holmes. Discussion doesn't hold a candle to antagonism with these Internet Skeptic types.
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1. The thread is titled "Proof of God"

2. The OP premises claim to result in a conclusion of "Therefore God exists."

3. It has been shown that the so called "Proof" rests entirely on a self proclaimed belief that ONLY God could be the ground of all that exists, "Desideratum Ultimum et Explanans Mundi".

4. For the conclusion claimed in 2 above to be True, would require proof of the belief in 3 above being proven True, rather than just a belief.

5. Therefore a question has been asked in an attempt to resolve that, which for some reason the OP claimant has steadfastly avoided any attempt to answer or discuss in a way to resolve the issue.

And that question, now for the 29th time:

The existence of the Universe, Life on Earth, and Consciousness, are self evident.
Can you show any evidence, proving that each, or any of them were created by a supernatural being/entity you call God?

YES or NO?

If YES, please do so.
If NO, then admit it.
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The existence of God(s) can neither be proven True or False because the basis of their existence is but another unproven/unprovable belief.
Many of the once believed to exist Gods have been put to rest as we eventually discovered the natural reasons for what they had been believed to be responsible for, leaving just one to go.

The ONE OP Premise I found to be undeniably True was "Whatever exists, can exist." I find that applicable both pre and post T0 (the initiation of the Universe) in which we exist and view today.

Change is constantly happening, creation and destruction, life and death occurs everywhere in the Universe naturally.

Gods without human created religious beliefs are meaningless, and with such beliefs simply allow people to divide against one another no different than secular politics though unlike secular beliefs, religious beliefs can offer the hopes of rewards after death by the believed to exist God.

So in the end, ALL that can be proven is what one believes sufficient for the maintenance of their belief in the existence of a God, NOT the Truth or Falsity of such a being/entities existence.

Believe or not believe, it is nothing but a choice.
 
Angel said:
It's elementary, Holmes. Discussion doesn't hold a candle to antagonism with these Internet Skeptic types.
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If God, specifically the Christian God, were proven there would be no other religion. So, as usual, your proof is not proof at all. Your premise is in fact DISMISSED as a hoax.
 
Praxas said:
If God, specifically the Christian God, were proven there would be no other religion. So, as usual, your proof is not proof at all. Your premise is in fact DISMISSED as a hoax.
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And your post is uninformed anti-religious caca, or is that kaka?. This thread is not about religion at all. Not about any religion. None. Get up to speed, man, before running off at the mouth, or at the keyboard as the case may be.
 
Individual said:
1. The thread is titled "Proof of God"

2. The OP premises claim to result in a conclusion of "Therefore God exists."

3. It has been shown that the so called "Proof" rests entirely on a self proclaimed belief that ONLY God could be the ground of all that exists, "Desideratum Ultimum et Explanans Mundi".

4. For the conclusion claimed in 2 above to be True, would require proof of the belief in 3 above being proven True, rather than just a belief.

5. Therefore a question has been asked in an attempt to resolve that, which for some reason the OP claimant has steadfastly avoided any attempt to answer or discuss in a way to resolve the issue.

And that question, now for the 29th time:

The existence of the Universe, Life on Earth, and Consciousness, are self evident.
Can you show any evidence, proving that each, or any of them were created by a supernatural being/entity you call God?

YES or NO?

If YES, please do so.
If NO, then admit it.
-------------------------
The existence of God(s) can neither be proven True or False because the basis of their existence is but another unproven/unprovable belief.
Many of the once believed to exist Gods have been put to rest as we eventually discovered the natural reasons for what they had been believed to be responsible for, leaving just one to go.

The ONE OP Premise I found to be undeniably True was "Whatever exists, can exist." I find that applicable both pre and post T0 (the initiation of the Universe) in which we exist and view today.

Change is constantly happening, creation and destruction, life and death occurs everywhere in the Universe naturally.

Gods without human created religious beliefs are meaningless, and with such beliefs simply allow people to divide against one another no different than secular politics though unlike secular beliefs, religious beliefs can offer the hopes of rewards after death by the believed to exist God.

So in the end, ALL that can be proven is what one believes sufficient for the maintenance of their belief in the existence of a God, NOT the Truth or Falsity of such a being/entities existence.

Believe or not believe, it is nothing but a choice.
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Well, you made my list after all. I warned you. Now scram. As far as I'm concerned, you're done. You've had your say. More of a say than your say deserved. Your posts don't exist for me anymore. Your posting antics have been consigned to the limbo of Angel's disregard. In short, I shall not be replying to your posts henceforth. Have a nice day and stay safe.
 
Angel said:
And your post is uninformed anti-religious caca, or is that kaka?. This thread is not about religion at all. Not about any religion. None. Get up to speed, man, before running off at the mouth, or at the keyboard as the case may be.
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Ohhh you are so behind the curve man, waiting for you to provide the ABSOLUTE PROOF there aren't MULTIPLE GODS that EXIST. You are slacking man.
 
Praxas said:
Your inability to prove me wrong is noted.
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Your post is neither right nor wrong -- it's irrelevant. Another example generously provide by you of posting without a clue as to the topic.
 
Angel said:
Your post is neither right nor wrong -- it's irrelevant. Another example generously provide by you of posting without a clue as to the topic.
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Your inability to prove me wrong is noted, another post by you with which you LIED. You are now demonstrating that you think your god approves you lying.
 
Praxas said:
Your inability to prove me wrong is noted, another post by you with which you LIED. You are now demonstrating that you think your god approves you lying.
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And just that quickly we get personal. What is it with you Internet Skeptics anyway? You want to fight above your weight class and then get snippy when you find yourselves on the canvas.
 
Angel said:
Well, you made my list after all. I warned you. Now scram. As far as I'm concerned, you're done. You've had your say. More of a say than your say deserved. Your posts don't exist for me anymore. Your posting antics have been consigned to the limbo of Angel's disregard. In short, I shall not be replying to your posts henceforth. Have a nice day and stay safe.
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So, to answer the question I've asked repeatedly with the only reasoned and rational conclusion that can be drawn is:

The existence of the Universe, Life on Earth, and Consciousness, are self evident.


There is no way of proving that each, or any of them were created by a supernatural being/entity you call God!

Therefore the existence of God(s) is unproven/unprovable, left only to be believed, for reasons which too, can only be believed True.

We'll just have to wait and see.

But either way, you have a nice day/evening, and remain safe too.
 
Angel said:
And just that quickly we get personal. What is it with you Internet Skeptics anyway? You want to fight above your weight class and then get snippy when you find yourselves on the canvas.
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It's not personal it's the truth. What is it with you Internet bible thumpers anyway? You want to fight above your weight class and then get snippy when you find yourselves on the canvas. You've lost as you can't discredit ANYTHING I've said. Go back to your sad reality. You aren't ready to have your beliefs challenged.
 
Praxas said:
It's not personal it's the truth. What is it with you Internet bible thumpers anyway? You want to fight above your weight class and then get snippy when you find yourselves on the canvas. You've lost as you can't discredit ANYTHING I've said. Go back to your sad reality. You aren't ready to have your beliefs challenged.
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You're out of line and persisting in your error, man. I have never once posted on the Bible in any thread I've posted in in three years as a member. You're all at sea and thrashing about in your posts. Find another thread to pollute.
 
Angel said:
You're out of line and persisting in your error, man. I have never once posted on the Bible in any thread I've posted in in three years as a member. You're all at sea and thrashing about in your posts. Find another thread to pollute.
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blah blah blah, let me know when you come up with an argument that you can actually defend. So far your low caliber high idiocy comments are boring. You are out of your depths bible thumper.
 
Praxas said:
blah blah blah, let me know when you come up with an argument that you can actually defend. So far your low caliber high idiocy comments are boring. You are out of your depths bible thumper.
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Scram, religion-basher. Find a thread suitable for the ignorance and stupidity of your posts.
 
devildavid said:
It would be helpful if anyone could come up with any evidence other than belief or opinion that there is such a thing as the non physical other than as an idea or a concept. It is a false equivalent to argue that the physical is as much just a concept or an idea as the non physical.
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Atheistic evolutionist naturalists refuse to believe there is an invisible spiritual dimension in the universe because science has not yet seen it and measured it.
 
Angel said:
Scram, religion-basher. Find a thread suitable for the ignorance and stupidity of your posts.
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Nope I think I will stay here and watch your flounder in your ignorance unable to rationally or intelligently post anything. Your stupid and pathetic comments are worth while to mock and ridicule as you continue to do nothing but post psycobabble comments. :lamo
 
marke said:
Atheistic evolutionist naturalists refuse to believe there is an invisible spiritual dimension in the universe because science has not yet seen it and measured it.
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And you have yet to prove there aren't pink unicorns living inside the moon. I bet you believe Santa Clause is real too. :lamo
 
Praxas said:
Nope I think I will stay here and watch your flounder in your ignorance unable to rationally or intelligently post anything. Your stupid and pathetic comments are worth while to mock and ridicule as you continue to do nothing but post psycobabble comments. :lamo
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Suit yourself. There's always the outside chance you'll learn something hanging around one of my threads.
 
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