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Proof of God

Angel said:
It was a perfect choice.
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Only for those who, like many/most early humans, accept testimonials as proof.
Good luck trying to find a use for your beliefs.
 
Individual said:
Only for those who, like many/most early humans, accept testimonials as proof.
Good luck trying to find a use for your beliefs.
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Your reductive scientific pragmatism cries out for a broadening. My recommendation would be for you to read in William James. But suit yourself, naturally.
 
Angel said:
I'm not trying to compel others to agree here. I'm giving personal testimony.
As for the rest of your post, maybe it's time we get something straight between us: science has given man nothing in the way of important knowledge. Science has given man nothing in the way of spiritual sustenance. Poetry, literature and art have given man much more than science, indeed much more than science can aspire to give.
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Science gave you the ability to post in this forum...so I guess you may have a point after all.
 
Angel said:
The experience of the person I am in the world—my consciousness, my life, and the physical world in which my conscious life appears to be set—these phenomena comprise a Stupendous Given. There's no getting around them and no getting outside them and no accounting for them from within the phenomena themselves. These phenomena point to something beyond themselves. The attempt to account for these phenomena from within the phenomena themselves has given rise to science, art and religion and the whole cultural adventure we call "civilization"—the long human struggle for purchase on the Stupendous Given. In the end, however, the only account that accords with reason is the account that infers to a Stupendous Giver. In sum, from the existence of consciousness, the existence of life, and the existence of the physical universe, the inference to the best explanation is God.
https://www.debatepolitics.com/beli...354-w-183-reasons-believe.html#post1069490983
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Stupendous Given? Capitalizing words does not turn them into serious thought, and Stupendous Given is one of the silliest things ever posted.
 
devildavid said:
Stupendous Given? Capitalizing words does not turn them into serious thought, and Stupendous Given is one of the silliest things ever posted.
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It was a prime example of a meaningless word salad.
 
God has once again harden pelosi's heart by having her moved forward with this impeachment shenanigan.God has encouraged and strengthened our President to stay strong.
God is certainly good.
Our President Trump should be able to carry out his wishes keeping God as his strength. I'm sure a few of you will see the relevancy in this response. God is mentioned five times and counting. God is certainly good...:)
 
PTF said:
God has once again harden pelosi's heart by having her moved forward with this impeachment shenanigan.God has encouraged and strengthened our President to stay strong.
God is certainly good.
Our President Trump should be able to carry out his wishes keeping God as his strength. I'm sure a few of you will see the relevancy in this response. God is mentioned five times and counting. God is certainly good...:)
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Trump has no connection with god. For one reason because gods do not exist but if they existed he is more likely to root for the other side (hell). The man is all the seven cardinal sins/deadly sins rolled into one. Sloth, lust, pride, greed, wrath, envy and gluttony. All fit perfectly with Donald Trump. When you look at the 10 commandments he also violates most of them. Nothing in his life speaks of god but of as the bible says, you cannot serve both god and mammon and Trump is 100% in camp Mammon and zero percent into camp god.
 
PTF said:
God has once again harden pelosi's heart by having her moved forward with this impeachment shenanigan.God has encouraged and strengthened our President to stay strong.
God is certainly good.
Our President Trump should be able to carry out his wishes keeping God as his strength. I'm sure a few of you will see the relevancy in this response. God is mentioned five times and counting. God is certainly good...:)
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Will god be called as a witness? Trump better hope not.
 
Earlier this week I watch a few liberal/Demos walking like zombies down the Senate hallways. Perhaps they were filming a horror movie or something. If the lowly liberal/Demo think they can intimidate our Christian President they have another thing coming. The Senate,no matter who will be judging will throw this case out in the garbage on the first day. It's proof God is real.
 
oh look another off topic senseless post from GFM
 
PTF said:
God will be on our President's side.
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Does your god actually exist or is this an unsupported belief that you have? Can you empirically prove to someone who isn't a member of your faith that your god actually exists in some form?
 
Lisa said:
Does your god actually exist or is this an unsupported belief that you have? Can you empirically prove to someone who isn't a member of your faith that your god actually exists in some form?
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I would say no but let us wait upon his answer. I wonder if the Hindu gods are on Trump's side? Or are gods wholly nationalistic?
 
zyzygy said:
I would say no but let us wait upon his answer. I wonder if the Hindu gods are on Trump's side? Or are gods wholly nationalistic?
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PTF/GFM/ITN doesnt answer questions he just babbles on incoherently about God and Trump
 
zyzygy said:
I would say no but let us wait upon his answer. I wonder if the Hindu gods are on Trump's side? Or are gods wholly nationalistic?
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I'm hoping that Vishnu, Shiva, and Brahma have decided to punish Donald Trump for his immoral ways by reincarnating him as a cockroach in his next life.

s./
 
Quag said:
PTF/GFM/ITN doesnt answer questions he just babbles on incoherently about God and Trump
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Yet you offer no rebuttal every time I post. All you say over and about me is I rant. You don't respond because you can't. You know I'm right on the money.
 
PTF said:
God will be on our President's side.
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Yeah, no doubt god is on the side of the guy who dodged the draft and then ridicules military leaders as dopes and babies, promotes racism, mocks the physically disabled, cheats on his wife multiple times, lies about it and pays hush money to shut them up, runs cons like Trump University and on and on. It's a long list.

But here's one of my favorite Trumpian escapades because it says to much about the man:

The Trump Foundation. It was basically a criminal enterprise designed to steal money from donors who thought their money was going to things like veteran's causes. Instead it went to Trump's own pockets. Due to his criminal behavior, if Trump ever joins a charity board — or starts a new charity of his own — the charity must fill a majority of board seats with people who have no relationship to Trump. It also must hire a qualified attorney, submit to audits and agree never to pay Trump or his company for any services.

Because President Trump has proved that he can't be trusted with other people's money. You see.

Meanwhile his children, who were officers of the foundation, all had to go to mandatory training on how not to be a corrupt lying thief like their dad.​

Did Jesus think we should support those in need? Or use charity as a means of filling his own pockets? Any God who is on this soulless, black-hearted man's side can...um...go to hell.
 
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So glad our President is calling attention to attacks by the lowly liberal/Demos on our second amendment rights. Our President Trump visited MLK Memorial so I guess the lowly liberal/Demos will add this to their weaponry against our President. God will protect our President.
 
jpn said:
Yeah, no doubt god is on the side of the guy who dodged the draft and then ridicules military leaders as dopes and babies, promotes racism, mocks the physically disabled, cheats on his wife multiple times, lies about it and pays hush money to shut them up, runs cons like Trump University and on and on. It's a long list.

But here's one of my favorite Trumpian escapades because it says to much about the man:

The Trump Foundation. It was basically a criminal enterprise designed to steal money from donors who thought their money was going to things like veteran's causes. Instead it went to Trump's own pockets. Due to his criminal behavior, if Trump ever joins a charity board — or starts a new charity of his own — the charity must fill a majority of board seats with people who have no relationship to Trump. It also must hire a qualified attorney, submit to audits and agree never to pay Trump or his company for any services. Because President Trump has proved that he can't be trusted with other people's money. You see.
Trump Pays $2 Million to 8 Charities for Misuse of Foundation - The New York Times

Did Jesus think we should support those in need? Or use charity as a means of filling his own pockets? Any God who is on this soulless, black-hearted man's side can...um...go to hell.
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Dont encourage him to post more nonsense
 
jpn said:
Yeah, no doubt god is on the side of the guy who dodged the draft and then ridicules military leaders as dopes and babies, promotes racism, mocks the physically disabled, cheats on his wife multiple times, lies about it and pays hush money to shut them up, runs cons like Trump University and on and on. It's a long list.

But here's one of my favorite Trumpian escapades because it says to much about the man:

The Trump Foundation. It was basically a criminal enterprise designed to steal money from donors who thought their money was going to things like veteran's causes. Instead it went to Trump's own pockets. Due to his criminal behavior, if Trump ever joins a charity board — or starts a new charity of his own — the charity must fill a majority of board seats with people who have no relationship to Trump. It also must hire a qualified attorney, submit to audits and agree never to pay Trump or his company for any services. Because President Trump has proved that he can't be trusted with other people's money. You see.
Trump Pays $2 Million to 8 Charities for Misuse of Foundation - The New York Times

Did Jesus think we should support those in need? Or use charity as a means of filling his own pockets? Any God who is on this soulless, black-hearted man's side can...um...go to hell.
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(playing the violin)
 
PTF said:
So glad our President is calling attention to attacks by the lowly liberal/Demos on our second amendment rights. Our President Trump visited MLK Memorial so I guess the lowly liberal/Demos will add this to their weaponry against our President. God will protect our President.
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Why? Gods are apolitical.
 
As the lowly liberal/Demo 'managers beat off our Republicans are good to go. Through God's blessing(noticed God is used remembering the title) Chucky doll Shumer did a "Child's Play" in his opening complaints. Mr. McConnell's Resolution is more than fare. The lowly liberal/Demos are going to fumble at the three yard line and this impeachment folly will go down as the biggest defeat. Our president will get his second term.
 
PTF said:
As the lowly liberal/Demo 'managers beat off our Republicans are good to go. Through God's blessing(noticed God is used remembering the title) Chucky doll Shumer did a "Child's Play" in his opening complaints. Mr. McConnell's Resolution is more than fare. The lowly liberal/Demos are going to fumble at the three yard line and this impeachment folly will go down as the biggest defeat. Our president will get his second term.
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keep praying. Its about all ya got left, cause facts and credibility are a rare commodity in trumpland.
 
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