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    Re: Proof of God

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Nope, they are simply not (as?) widely worshiped. Your assertion that a sky daddy (or whatever physical attributes you assign to your definition of "the true God") exists is based on no more than being able to describe his/her attributes and superpowers. Perhaps I should have added a bigfoot (yeti) to the list of mythical beings, since folks have sworn to have seen them too.
    You left out the Greys, I be more willing to believe in life on other planets than a man made deity.
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    Re: Proof of God

    Quote Originally Posted by Angel View Post
    Those adjectives pertain to the nature of God, not yo the existence of God. Please re-read the post you quote.
    They apply to both
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    Re: Proof of God

    Quote Originally Posted by weaver2 View Post
    Round, juicy, sweet, peel-able, orange. description of an orange is part of what it really is.

    Unknown, unknowable, the best explanation, tracks , abstract, essential, an ordering intelligence, exists, is One, creator , neither male nor female, eternal, not created, omniscient=description
    Horned, pure-white, graceful, powerful= description of a unicorn.

    Jolly, slides down chimneys every year to bring presents for good boys and girls, ruddy cheeks, and a twinkle in the eyes= description of Santa.

    Elephant headed god of learning and knowlege, good natured, with big belly= Description of Lord Ganesha in Hinduism.

    These are all descriptions. What do these descriptions imply about their actual existence?
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    Re: Proof of God

    Quote Originally Posted by Angel View Post
    Accidental order on such a scale and of such complexity? It seems to me much more rational to infer to an ordering intelligence. Not to you?
    Not to Stephen Hawking.

    ”One can’t prove that God doesn’t exist. But science makes God unnecessary. … The laws of physics can explain the universe without the need for a creator....It is not necessary to invoke God to light the blue touch paper and set the universe going.”
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    Have you studied M-theory?

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    Re: Proof of God

    Quote Originally Posted by weaver2 View Post
    Round, juicy, sweet, peel-able, orange. description of an orange is part of what it really is...
    Those adjectives pertain to the nature of the orange, not to the existence of the orange -- to what the orange is. That it is, is another question.
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    Re: Proof of God

    Quote Originally Posted by ataraxia View Post
    My motivations should not matter. My question is more of an epistemic one. Because if I can do that with unicorns, I can do that with anything, right?
    Children and militant atheists do the sort of thing you suggest. It is a frivolous exercise, and insulting to the intelligence of a rational adult. Draw what epistemic conclusions you will.
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    Re: Proof of God

    Quote Originally Posted by ataraxia View Post
    ...Have you studied M-theory?
    Have you not read the following post?
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    ...As for the deliverances of science on the nature of reality, I'm squarely in the anti-realist or nominalist camp as to what science is actually telling us.
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    Re: Proof of God

    Quote Originally Posted by ataraxia View Post
    If you read Hawking‘s book “The Grand Design”, he talks about how modern M theory makes the idea of an I designed universe a very distinct possibility.

    Of course there could potentially be many other ways this could happen. M theory could, despite all its current appeal among physicists, eventually be shown to be wrong. But the point is that there’s nothing logically impossible about such a possible theory.
    There's nothing logically impossible about solipsism either. I'm afraid I don't share your veneration of Hawking in particular or science in general.
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    Re: Proof of God

    Quote Originally Posted by yankintx View Post
    You left out the Greys, I be more willing to believe in life on other planets than a man made deity.
    What's not "man-made" about "life on other planets"?
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    Re: Proof of God

    Quote Originally Posted by Angel View Post
    Tracks

    It's all a matter of tracking, folks.

    If you come across these tracks:

    You'd be justified in concluding that a bird had been there.


    If you came across these tracks:

    You'd be justified in concluding that a dog had passed through.

    And so on:



    If you come across a universe, life forms, and conscious being...
    you'd be justified in inferring to a God.


    Atheists are poor trackers, is all.
    A "you-can-say-that-again" kind of post.
    In the running for Post of the Year recognition.
    Would make a terrific Original Post in a new thread, dontcha think?
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