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[W:201]Why the Catholic Church is the Greatest Organization in the World

Mashmont said:
I obviously meant people can remove all references to and reminders of God, which is what the Marxist leaders have done in the public schools.
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Your goalposts are rocket powered.
 
Mashmont said:
Atheist=godless. The liberals are trying to remove God from the public schools and apparently replace Him with 3 million instances of sexual abuse. And they won't even address the problem, as it continues to get worse. So we have a connection there. The Marxist policymakers are removing God from the public schools while REFUSING to address the GROWING molestation problem of students by teachers.

Meanwhile, the Catholic Church has completely remedied the issues created by gay men who violated church teaching decades ago by PREVENTING gays from entering the priesthood.
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Er, no. You must divest yourself of the illusion that everyone who disagrees with you is a left-wing Marxist atheist. It makes you look foolish.
 
it's just me said:
He has learned more in one Mass than you will ever learn reading the JW website.
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lol...he sure hasn't shown it, neither have you...you're both too busy fighting and putting others down...
 
Mashmont said:
When they speak ex cathedra as they have done only twice....in 1850 and 1854, they are infallible, according to Catholic doctrine. Infallibility can be taught through the Popes, the General Council, and the Magisterium.
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So then why should we listen to anything else they say?
 
Actor Gabriel Byrne has launched a stinging attack on the Catholic Church and described it as a “force for evil”.

The veteran Hollywood star had a strict Catholic upbringing in Dublin and spent five years in a seminary training to be a priest.


Byrne describes Catholic Church as ‘force for evil’
 
Now we have the Pennsylvania grand jury report, which is both shocking and not shocking. We continue to be shocked by the graphic descriptions of priest-pedophiles abusing kids in unspeakable ways and how bishops perpetuated evil through their self-serving actions.

We are not shocked, however, that this happened in Pennsylvania. Because we now know it was happening everywhere. The reports keep coming out — and will continue to come out — because church leaders keep hiding information while hoping it all just goes away.

But, of course, it is not going away.

This is never going to move to reconciliation and closure until the church finally summons the courage, compassion and humility to address this crisis head-on. In other words, live the words that Jesus spoke. And by "church," I mean all of us. Every Catholic (lay and clergy) is called to confront the evil of abuse. Those who decide to do nothing have decided to condone this evil. There are only guilty bystanders at this point. It's time to get to work.

First, bring the sins committed and hidden in darkness into the light. There must be a very public accounting of all the abuses that occurred and all the cover-ups that protected the abusers. Some bishops, to their credit, have opened abuse files and acknowledged wrongdoing by church leadership. Every bishop in every diocese must do the same.
Every Catholic, lay and clergy, is called to confront evil of abuse | National Catholic Reporter
 
As a person raised in the Catholic Church, I’ve come to doubt its ability to conduct a reckoning of the kind called for by Megan McArdle in her Aug. 16 op-ed, “The church has betrayed Christ.”

Scandal after scandal, it’s becoming ever clearer that the abuse of children, and the protection and perpetuation of it by clerical leadership, is the rule for the Catholic Church worldwide, not the exception.

Which brings into stark focus why the church so relentlessly fights these claims: So fully is it permeated by the cancerous evil within that a complete reckoning would bankrupt it.

The only responsible, ethical, Christ-like course of action is for the church to sell its gold and its palaces and exhaust its treasury, if need be, to pay reparations to every last victim.

That the church refuses to do this says loud and clear that it is no longer morally capable of discharging its duties. Catholics should listen. The only path to justice lies in dismantling the bureaucracy and starting anew.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...fdc828-a19d-11e8-a3dd-2a1991f075d5_story.html
 
The perfect church, lol. The vilest church in the world.
 
Over the last few years, it's become increasingly clear that there's no longer any place in Roman Catholicism for any but the most conservative and doctrinaire members. The signs of a top-down ideological cleansing are too obvious to ignore, including the Vatican hierarchy's using the Eucharist as a bludgeon against politicians who show too much independence and cracking down on nuns for being suspiciously feminist. People, especially young people, are leaving in droves, and the FFRF has been helping them along with billboards and ads urging progressive Catholics to quit the church (I can't tell you how much I love "Put Women's Rights Over Bishops' Wrongs"). Even the executive editor of the New York Times, hardly a voice of radicalism, is in agreement that liberals can do more good outside the church than in. And liberal Catholics who aren't leaving feel compelled to articulate why not, a clear sign that they're feeling the pressure as well.

Today's Reasons to Quit the Catholic Church - Big Think
 
Spain's traditional image as one of Europe's religious strongholds looks set to take a serious dent after it emerged that not only are half its parishes now without priests but also the average age of clerics has risen to nearly 65.

Sources inside the Catholic Church in Spain confirmed that their manpower shortage means Spanish rural priests are sometimes responsible for up to five or six parishes at a time. The most extreme case, according to El País newspaper, is a 47-year-old priest in a remote rural region of Cantabria who is responsible for 22 parishes. And a recent church-funded study has shown that in 2007, of the 23,286 parishes in Spain, no fewer than 10,615 had no priest in permanent residence.

The situation here mirrors that in some other countries. In the United States 40 years ago, there was one priest for every 772 Catholics, now it is one per 1,603. In 1970, there were 8,000 students in US seminaries, today it is around 1,300. Scotland's only seminary has announced it will close, and in Ireland the average age of priests is 63. The archdiocese of Dublin has 46 priests over 80 years of age but only two under 35.

But Spain's crisis still has the power to shock. In his keynote speech to the Spanish Ecclesiastical Congress recently, the Archbishop of Madrid, Cardinal Antonio Maria Rouco, indirectly acknowledged the problem when he said the average age of Spanish priests has risen to over 63, while in some regions it has reached 72. In Spain, the usual retirement age for men is 65.

"There are fewer of us and we are older than in previous years," Cardinal Rouco conceded – and it's a trend that looks set to continue.

Miguel Angel Morell, the head of one of three seminaries in the southern city of Granada, said: "There's been a huge drop in the number of [priestly] vocations in recent years. There are a few more young seminarists, and the ones we take are more sure of their decision, but overall the total is definitely down." The decline is steep, from 1,383 in 2008 to 1,223 this year.

The crisis is such that Barcelona, with a population of nearly three million, currently has just 30 trainee priests. Tortosa, another large city, went from having eight seminarists in 2008 to just one this year
As priest numbers fall, even Catholic Spain is not immune to a crisis of faith | The Independent
 
The Catholic Church is dying. Very few young men are willing to give up sex and be suspected of being a pedophile.
 
zyzygy said:
The Catholic Church is dying. Very few young men are willing to give up sex and be suspected of being a pedophile.
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There is a resurgence of seminarians in the United States, just to dispel your lie.
 
zyzygy said:
Over the last few years, it's become increasingly clear that there's no longer any place in Roman Catholicism for any but the most conservative and doctrinaire members. The signs of a top-down ideological cleansing are too obvious to ignore, including the Vatican hierarchy's using the Eucharist as a bludgeon against politicians who show too much independence and cracking down on nuns for being suspiciously feminist. People, especially young people, are leaving in droves, and the FFRF has been helping them along with billboards and ads urging progressive Catholics to quit the church (I can't tell you how much I love "Put Women's Rights Over Bishops' Wrongs"). Even the executive editor of the New York Times, hardly a voice of radicalism, is in agreement that liberals can do more good outside the church than in. And liberal Catholics who aren't leaving feel compelled to articulate why not, a clear sign that they're feeling the pressure as well.

Today's Reasons to Quit the Catholic Church - Big Think
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Actually, the world needs the church more than ever. So many efforts by the Marxist left to harm people and weaken them. Atheists do NOT have the best interest of people at heart. The Catholic Church does.
 
My son is doing so well. I raised him to be a strict Catholic. He entered the seminary, really enjoyed it and learned a lot, but ultimately decided the married life was for him. Then he got a very high-paying job, well into the six figures. He dated a young women who went to his city to visit for the weekend, but instead of allowing her to stay at his apartment, he paid for her hotel room. And of course, he was very picky about choosing a girl. She had to be a very devout Catholic as well. Now he's with a different more devout young women. He is on the road to marriage and children. Getting underway with his life. Very similar to the Duggar model of doing things.

When your child turns out that well, you feel absolutely GREAT about it.
 
Mashmont said:
Atheist=godless. The liberals are trying to remove God from the public schools and apparently replace Him with 3 million instances of sexual abuse. And they won't even address the problem, as it continues to get worse. So we have a connection there. The Marxist policymakers are removing God from the public schools while REFUSING to address the GROWING molestation problem of students by teachers.

Meanwhile, the Catholic Church has completely remedied the issues created by gay men who violated church teaching decades ago by PREVENTING gays from entering the priesthood.
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Many public universities have Newman Centers. How can that be if all public schools are controlled by atheist Marxists?

There is zero connection between molestation of students and the lack of god in public schools. God has never been a part of public schools. Has molestation always been a problem in public schools? What has affected the increase in molestation is social media, not a lack of god, which public schools always lacked.
 
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