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[W:201]Why the Catholic Church is the Greatest Organization in the World

Mashmont said:
The US killed 100 million? The US didn't even HAVE a population of 100 million until 1950. lol.
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Is the US the only capitalist country?


Deny this statement


The catholic church has murdered, raped and abused millions of people
 
Mashmont said:
I never knew what a "Catholic extremist" looked like. Is it someone who acts too much like Jesus? Is it someone who loves his fellow man too much?
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What did "Deus vult" mean? And how was it used?
 
The catholic church has murdered, raped and abused millions of people
 
Elvira said:
He in no way taught his followers to kill their enemies, either...instead he taught them to pray for their enemies...
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He didn't say he was Michael the Archangel, either.
 
vegas giants said:
Capitalist regimes killed millions more.


But they never protected pedophiles.



The catholic church did that
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I am not sure 'capitalistic regimes' never protected pedophiles.
 
Mashmont said:
I never knew what a "Catholic extremist" looked like. Is it someone who acts too much like Jesus? Is it someone who loves his fellow man too much?

And the brainwashing comment. That doesn't make sense either. Christianity, and especially the Catholic church is purely voluntary. There is no one who calls to ask why you haven't been attending. No one knows if you've been attending since many people attend different Catholic Churches each weekend. The Catholic Church doesn't push or force. It's there if you want it.

As for the abuse. In the Catholic Church the rate is below that for other groups of men, yet it receives all the media attention. Why? Because as I said, the Catholic Church is the arch enemy of Marxism, and our Marxist media has been given instructions to undermine the church. All organizations have fallible humans who sometimes do bad things. This in no way affects the perfect teachings of Jesus. If you left the church because of the actions of men, your faith wasn't strong to begin with.
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Since you're trying to quote me, I said religious extremists or fanatics to put it politely, in simpler words that you may understand better, religious nuts. You seem to fit into that category going by your thread and OP, your religion is best, Catholics are above other people, you judge and criticize those who are of different religion, sexual preference, media choice or political affiliation. Anyone who is not like you, you are hateful toward, insulting or unkind to.

Religious extremists as I mentioned in this example are the ones who claim to be Jesus-like, kind and compassionate, but in reality they are very intolerant of anyone who believes differently than them. They can't have a conversation with anyone without attempting to preach the bible to them, and of course what they preach has been cherry-picked to suit their needs. They want to shove their religion down everyone else's throats, the Born Agains are the worst for this, that I know from personal experience.

The brainwashing comment is true, nobody forces you to go to a Catholic church but you can still be brainwashed about how they're preaching. Nobody forces Trump followers to go to his rallies as if in a cult and he is their supreme leader, but nonetheless, they are brainwashed by their chosen leader and how he preaches to or manipulates them.

You say the Catholic church rate of abuse is below that of other groups of men, but other groups of men don't sell themselves as instruments of Jesus, dress up in an outfit with a backward collar, gaining trust in young children, and then abusing their power and title to rape and abuse them in a painful and shameless way.

The Catholic church is not the greatest organization in the world, that in the least is an exaggeration if not a flat out lie. Christian Atrocities | Victims of Christianity | Catholic Church Inquisition | Crusades
 
Old 'N Chill said:
Since you're trying to quote me, I said religious extremists or fanatics to put it politely, in simpler words that you may understand better, religious nuts. You seem to fit into that category going by your thread and OP, your religion is best, Catholics are above other people, you judge and criticize those who are of different religion, sexual preference, media choice or political affiliation. Anyone who is not like you, you are hateful toward, insulting or unkind to.

Religious extremists as I mentioned in this example are the ones who claim to be Jesus-like, kind and compassionate, but in reality they are very intolerant of anyone who believes differently than them. They can't have a conversation with anyone without attempting to preach the bible to them, and of course what they preach has been cherry-picked to suit their needs. They want to shove their religion down everyone else's throats, the Born Agains are the worst for this, that I know from personal experience.

The brainwashing comment is true, nobody forces you to go to a Catholic church but you can still be brainwashed about how they're preaching. Nobody forces Trump followers to go to his rallies as if in a cult and he is their supreme leader, but nonetheless, they are brainwashed by their chosen leader and how he preaches to or manipulates them.

You say the Catholic church rate of abuse is below that of other groups of men, but other groups of men don't sell themselves as instruments of Jesus, dress up in an outfit with a backward collar, gaining trust in young children, and then abusing their power and title to rape and abuse them in a painful and shameless way.

The Catholic church is not the greatest organization in the world, that in the least is an exaggeration if not a flat out lie. Christian Atrocities | Victims of Christianity | Catholic Church Inquisition | Crusades
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Notice how your post is loaded with personal attacks against me, while neither my post to you nor my OP insulted anyone. My opposition is towards bad ideas. If people are trying to force those bad ideas upon me, I try to stop them. Liberalism and atheism are evil. They are bad ideas. They destroy lives. People who promote them need to be stopped. My OP promoted the greatness of the Catholic Church. Your problem with the church was and continues to be people within it who have done some perceived wrong to you. You need to look beyond that and recognize the perfect teaachings of Jesus are unaffected by the acts of men.
 
If Christ established the Catholic Church then why is it that we look in vain in the Bible for such expressions most current among her, such as trinity, purgatory, mass, immortal soul, lent, novenas, indulgences, penances, holy water, veneration of Mary, the Immaculate Conception, the Assumption of Mary, etc.? I could name so many things the church upholds that is not Biblical...
 
The position against birth control is one of the wisest policies of the Catholic Church. It totally emphasizes the sharing nature of intimacy. The 10-day hiatus you take per month is like fasting in a sense. Self-denial is great for the soul. Then when the abstinence period is over, intimacy is that much better.

Contrast that, if you will, to the hideous peddling of sex and degradation of women promoted by the leftwing extremists who are pushing for prostitution to be decriminalized and thus made legal.
 
Elvira said:
If Christ established the Catholic Church then why is it that we look in vain in the Bible for such expressions most current among her, such as trinity, purgatory, mass, immortal soul, lent, novenas, indulgences, penances, holy water, veneration of Mary, the Immaculate Conception, the Assumption of Mary, etc.? I could name so many things the church upholds that is not Biblical...
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Why would you think God stopped teaching 2000 years ago? Since then there have been Marian apparitions in which Mary has continued to teach. And such is the same with the God-inspired Magisterium as well as infallible decrees by the popes. And Purgatory IS in the bible, by the way, in one of the books deleted by the Protestants.
 
Mashmont said:
Why would you think God stopped teaching 2000 years ago? Since then there have been Marian apparitions in which Mary has continued to teach. And such is the same with the God-inspired Magisterium as well as infallible decrees by the popes. And Purgatory IS in the bible, by the way, in one of the books deleted by the Protestants.
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When the apostles finished the writings of the Bible, Christians had/have all they need to have for salvation...the Bible makes that abundantly clear...

“I am bearing witness to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone makes an addition to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this scroll; and if anyone takes anything away from the words of the scroll of this prophecy, God will take his portion away from the trees of life and out of the holy city, things that are written about in this scroll." Revelation 22:18,19
 
Not to mention, we read much in the Bible regarding subjects seldom mentioned by the Catholic clergy, such as regards sin’s wages being death, the hope of a resurrection, a new heavens and a new earth, and, above all, the importance of Jehovah’s name....Romans 6:23; John 5:28, 29; Revelation 20:5, 6; 2 Peter 3:13; Psalm 83:18; John 17:4, 6; Acts 15:14...dead silence on those issues...
 
Elvira said:
When the apostles finished the writings of the Bible, Christians had/have all they need to have for salvation...the Bible makes that abundantly clear...

“I am bearing witness to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone makes an addition to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this scroll; and if anyone takes anything away from the words of the scroll of this prophecy, God will take his portion away from the trees of life and out of the holy city, things that are written about in this scroll." Revelation 22:18,19
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The verse refers to the prophecies of the Book of Revelation. Catholic teaching hasn't altered that.
 
Mashmont said:
The verse refers to the prophecies of the Book of Revelation. Catholic teaching hasn't altered that.
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But that doesn't mean God stops teaching us through the Magisterium. There are specific issue that have arisen which were not mentioned in the bible; nuclear holocaust, in vitro fertilization, cloning.
 
Elvira said:
Not to mention, we read much in the Bible regarding subjects seldom mentioned by the Catholic clergy, such as regards sin’s wages being death, the hope of a resurrection, a new heavens and a new earth, and, above all, the importance of Jehovah’s name....Romans 6:23; John 5:28, 29; Revelation 20:5, 6; 2 Peter 3:13; Psalm 83:18; John 17:4, 6; Acts 15:14...dead silence on those issues...
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I don't know where you get that priests don't mention sin, death, and the resurrection. That's just incorrect.
 
Mashmont said:
The verse refers to the prophecies of the Book of Revelation. Catholic teaching hasn't altered that.
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Catholic teachings alter many things taught in the Bible...there is no trinity, there is no immortal soul, there is no hellfire...the list goes on...the Catholic church has fused itself with pagan philosophy and religion, and in the interests of worldly fame, wealth and political power it joined hands with the state, that marked the beginning of the Catholic Church as we have known it for the past sixteen centuries...the epitome of apostasy...
 
Mashmont said:
But that doesn't mean God stops teaching us through the Magisterium. There are specific issue that have arisen which were not mentioned in the bible; nuclear holocaust, in vitro fertilization, cloning.
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Christian principles laid out in the Bible address all those issues...
 
Mashmont said:
I don't know where you get that priests don't mention sin, death, and the resurrection. That's just incorrect.
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And they distort it with pagan teachings...
 
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