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Atheists Get the Darwin Award!!!

Jay59 said:
Mind. There is another concept we really don't understand. What is a mind as distinct from a brain? What goes into it that does not filter through senses? Is it a biological receiver that resonates on to something no instrument has yet detected? These are scientifically valid questions.

There is more to life than life.
Georg Simmel
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Can you show that 'mind' is anything more than the emergent quality of the effect of the biochemical interactions of neurons in the brain? We know a lot more scientifically than a late 19th century philosopher.
 
Jay59 said:
Mind. There is another concept we really don't understand. What is a mind as distinct from a brain? What goes into it that does not filter through senses? Is it a biological receiver that resonates on to something no instrument has yet detected? These are scientifically valid questions.

There is more to life than life.
Georg Simmel
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Shut off the brain, and off goes the mind. Pretty simple stuff here. Mind is a function of brain. No brain; no mind. Damage the brain; alter the mind. All the arguments claiming otherwise have been debunked by neuroscience.
 
RAMOSS said:
Can you show that 'mind' is anything more than the emergent quality of the effect of the biochemical interactions of neurons in the brain? We know a lot more scientifically than a late 19th century philosopher.
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Can anyone? We know a lot more about neurons and biochemistry, but almost nothing more about consciousness.

calamity said:
Shut off the brain, and off goes the mind. Pretty simple stuff here. Mind is a function of brain. No brain; no mind. Damage the brain; alter the mind. All the arguments claiming otherwise have been debunked by neuroscience.
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We have no real clue as to what changes at death. In the scope of knowledge we may have progressed from preschool to 2nd grade. Rah.
 
Jay59 said:
Can anyone? We know a lot more about neurons and biochemistry, but almost nothing more about consciousness.


We have no real clue as to what changes at death. In the scope of knowledge we may have progressed from preschool to 2nd grade. Rah.
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Yet, when we do tests, we show that 1) Intelligence is linked to the number of neurons in the brain 2) Specific parts of the brain have different functions, and 3) Specific parts of the brain become active when thinking, and different parts of the brain become active when emotional.

And, what changes in death is there is no brain activity. We do not see any indication of mind after the brain ceases it's activity.
 
RAMOSS said:
Yet, when we do tests, we show that 1) Intelligence is linked to the number of neurons in the brain 2) Specific parts of the brain have different functions, and 3) Specific parts of the brain become active when thinking, and different parts of the brain become active when emotional.

And, what changes in death is there is no brain activity. We do not see any indication of mind after the brain ceases it's activity.
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Death is much more complicated. We have no clear understanding about why it occurs in one situation and not an apparently identical situation. Tissue stops repairing itself for no well defined reason. There is an entire field of study about near death experiences.
 
Jay59 said:
Death is much more complicated. We have no clear understanding about why it occurs in one situation and not an apparently identical situation. Tissue stops repairing itself for no well defined reason. There is an entire field of study about near death experiences.
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Is it?? How do you know that? Tissue stops repairing itself due to the lack of oxygen, which then disorganizes the entire chemical balance. As for 'near death experiences', well, there used to be a whole field of study on the meaning on the shape and bumps on the head too.
 
RAMOSS said:
Is it?? How do you know that? Tissue stops repairing itself due to the lack of oxygen, which then disorganizes the entire chemical balance. As for 'near death experiences', well, there used to be a whole field of study on the meaning on the shape and bumps on the head too.
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Now you are just being sarcastic. Medical science does not know what causes death, only the sort of situations in which it occurs. Lack of oxygen is neither a necessary nor a sufficient cause.
 
Jay59 said:
Now you are just being sarcastic. Medical science does not know what causes death, only the sort of situations in which it occurs. Lack of oxygen is neither a necessary nor a sufficient cause.
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Let's see you support the claim that 'Medical science does not know what causes death'. Please refer to a scientifc journal. Show your statement is true.
 
Jay59 said:
A reasonable question. The answer is that the phenomenon is too universal, too persistent against opposition.

Still, it's not a clear decision. There is room on both sides.
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Being universal supports that it comes from man's imagination.
 
Aging has been called “the most complex of all biological problems.” After decades of effort, scientific research has not revealed the cause of aging, much less found a cure. In 2004 the magazine Scientific American published a warning issued by 51 scientists who study aging. It said: “No currently marketed intervention​—none—​has yet been proved to slow, stop or reverse human aging.” Although sensible diet and exercise may improve your health and lower the risk of your dying prematurely from disease, nothing has been proved to retard aging. These conclusions remind us of the words of Jesus found in the Bible: “Who of you by being anxious can add one cubit to his life span?”​—Matthew 6:27.

Summing up the progress in the effort to find a cure for aging, Medina writes: “We don’t really know why we age in the first place. . . . After declaring a war on cancer decades ago, we still have not found a cure. And the process of aging is infinitely more complicated than the mechanisms underlying cancer.”
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Why Do We Grow Old? — Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY
 
Jay59 said:
That's one explanation. It is not the only one.
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Why couldn't it be? Where does the writing of fiction come from? Where does telling stories come from? Where do myths and tall tales come from?
 
Jay59 said:
Can anyone? We know a lot more about neurons and biochemistry, but almost nothing more about consciousness.


We have no real clue as to what changes at death. In the scope of knowledge we may have progressed from preschool to 2nd grade. Rah.
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Sure, we do have a clue. The body ceases to function. Then it decays. Same as any other living thing. We observe death and decay in all living things, so I think we know some things about it.
 
devildavid said:
Why couldn't it be? Where does the writing of fiction come from? Where does telling stories come from? Where do myths and tall tales come from?
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Which is the same question.

As a writer, I can say that ideas come from experience. They morph, but there is a recognizable root.
 
devildavid said:
Sure, we do have a clue. The body ceases to function. Then it decays. Same as any other living thing. We observe death and decay in all living things, so I think we know some things about it.
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Not the same as every other living being. Starfish are very different, for example. There is living animal tissue that is centuries old.

We don't even understand why a body ages. Plants don't.
 
Jay59 said:
Which is the same question.

As a writer, I can say that ideas come from experience. They morph, but there is a recognizable root.
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Yet, many ideas are totally fanciful, and have not basis in reality at all.
 
Jay59 said:
Not the same as every other living being. Starfish are very different, for example. There is living animal tissue that is centuries old.

We don't even understand why a body ages. Plants don't.
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Everything living ages and dies, eventually. Plants, starfish, and humans alike. We all die and decay some day.

What is an example!e of living animal tissue centuries old? What do you mean by living tissue?
 
Jay59 said:
Which is the same question.

As a writer, I can say that ideas come from experience. They morph, but there is a recognizable root.
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Yes, the brain is the root.
 
Jay59 said:
Not the same as every other living being. Starfish are very different, for example. There is living animal tissue that is centuries old.

We don't even understand why a body ages. Plants don't.
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We understand why a body ages... and plants don't. You are entirely wrong.
 
MrWonderful said:
No, you atheists beat us to death with your relentless proselytizing over how *smart* you are, how *logical* you are, how *kind and generous and good* you are, how *morally superior* you are.
You take us to court to impose your godless dogma. You call us vile and hateful names, in the name of your *logic* and *persuasion*. Some of the more gullible simply give up and not wanting or unable to
withstand the onslaught of name-calling and vitriol, acquiesce to your proselytizing and go to the Dark Side you giggle about with your childish avatar and obsession with Darth Vader.

http://ProofThereIsNoGod.blogspot.com
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You're raving again.
 
MrWonderful said:
YouTube


"Osama bin Laden had more offspring than atheists Richard Dawkins, Neil DeGrasse Tyson, Christopher Hitchens, Stephen Hawking, Bill Nye, Isaac Asimov, and Sam Harris combined!"

Moreover, atheists abandon their religion more frequently than any other members of any religion do. Only 30% of atheists brought up that way remain atheists. How "illogical" and "irrational" of them to claim logic and rationality when it is so readily abandoned around the world.
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Atheism isn't a religion. It's the absence of one.
 
MrWonderful said:
You failed to watch the video in the OP. The purpose of all living things is to spread "copy me programs about" said Richard Dawkins, atheist hero of atheists the world over.
In this respect, atheists fail miserably to fulfill their Darwinian purpose. Think about it. Ask someone to explain it to you if all this is not enough.
You're the first person I have encountered who had no idea of the point of the video. The first.
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You failed to understand the video. Evolution has nothing to do with atheism. Some new evidence could come out tomorrow that offers a better explanation for the diversity of life on the planet. It would still not convince me that a God or Gods exist.
 
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