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    Re: Why People Hate Religion

    Quote Originally Posted by it's just me View Post
    They can't be doing it for the same reasons we do, they don't have the mandate. Get it? They don't have the mandate we do. So they are not doing it for the same reasons we do. Don't accuse us of "selfish" motivations, that may be your motivation but it isn't mine.
    So if you are doing it just to satisfy a mandate, then that is not doing it for unselfish reasons?. You are doing it because you are instructed to do it by your God. That is selfish. It is necessary to do it so you don't get in trouble with your god. How is that no selfish?
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    Re: Why People Hate Religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Integrityrespec View Post
    We have a very self centered society and in many cases we are teaching our youth the wrong things. The faults of a few are not reason to condemn religion. If you study religion you will find the fault in mankind and not religion. Christian religions in America are among the most giving charitable organizations that exist.
    Religious people more likely to give to charity, study shows - Washington Times
    How much of that is 'tithing to the church'??? And, out of the 'tithing to the church' , how much of that actually goes to the poor people, rather than the upkeep of the church, paying for the maitinance of the church, funding programs for the church members, such as religious schooling, and outing, and other things that directly benefit the person doing the 'tithing'?
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    Re: Why People Hate Religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Integrityrespec View Post
    We have a very self centered society and in many cases we are teaching our youth the wrong things. The faults of a few are not reason to condemn religion. If you study religion you will find the fault in mankind and not religion. Christian religions in America are among the most giving charitable organizations that exist.
    Religious people more likely to give to charity, study shows - Washington Times
    And that study was shown to be full of flaws, which included giving to a church, even when such giving is mandated by the church and goes to church causes and purposes. While this is giving to others, so is giving money to help your own family, which also cannot be claimed on taxes, unlike giving to church can. We honestly don't know who gives more or for what reasons. And giving to charity is pretty subjective when determining how charitable or giving a person is. And at least one study suggests that it is the sense of community, of belonging that causes people to give, not their religion or even the strength of their religious beliefs.

    It’s Social Ties—Not Religion—That Makes the Faithful Give to Charity | TIME.com
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    Re: Why People Hate Religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    If you are a Christian, you can't have liberal ideas?

    Was this guy a Christian? Bishop spent millions in church funds on luxury travel, including private jets to the Jersey Shore, report says

    Was this guy a Christian? Anti-LGBT Republican resigns after accusations he used gay dating app to meet way-younger men

    Of course neither man was really a Christian - right?
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    Re: Why People Hate Religion

    Quote Originally Posted by RAMOSS View Post
    When it comes to feeding the poor, how does the motivation matter? All the poor care about is getting properly fed.
    Because I can't help but notice how some of y'all's "charity" only goes as far as your politics.
    “It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were. And sometimes you didn't want to know the end… because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it’s only a passing thing… this shadow. Even darkness must pass."

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    Re: Why People Hate Religion

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    So if you are doing it just to satisfy a mandate, then that is not doing it for unselfish reasons?. You are doing it because you are instructed to do it by your God. That is selfish. It is necessary to do it so you don't get in trouble with your god. How is that no selfish?
    Charity to get votes is selfish. When no one is looking and there's nothing to gain, that is charity for charity's sake. Only you could call that selfish.
    “It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were. And sometimes you didn't want to know the end… because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it’s only a passing thing… this shadow. Even darkness must pass."

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    Re: Why People Hate Religion

    Quote Originally Posted by it's just me View Post
    Because I can't help but notice how some of y'all's "charity" only goes as far as your politics.
    Yet,do the poor care , as long as they get fed, and get shelter?
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    Re: Why People Hate Religion

    Quote Originally Posted by RAMOSS View Post
    Yet,do the poor care , as long as they get fed, and get shelter?
    Because not all of the poor get those things.
    “It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were. And sometimes you didn't want to know the end… because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it’s only a passing thing… this shadow. Even darkness must pass."

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    Re: Why People Hate Religion

    Quote Originally Posted by it's just me View Post
    Because not all of the poor get those things.
    And, that's the precise reason that several different religious groups will coordinate their efforts, to try to cover those people. Do you think the poor care if the food was donated to them via someone who calls themselves a 'satanist' or an Anglican? For that matter, Social Services in many states does a damn better job in insuring that everyone at least gets something.
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    "The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction (i.e., the reality of experience) and the distinction between true and false (i.e., the standards of thought) no longer exist."

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    Re: Why People Hate Religion

    Quote Originally Posted by RAMOSS View Post
    Yet,do the poor care , as long as they get fed, and get shelter?
    Because not all of the poor get those things.
    “It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were. And sometimes you didn't want to know the end… because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it’s only a passing thing… this shadow. Even darkness must pass."

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