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I wanna know...

Atheism is not an active belief. It simply means a lack of belief in a deity.
It's best to just call the whole category 'nontheism', so people don't get confused between the negative and positive statements, IMHO.

That's what most philosophers do.
 
Atheism is not an active belief. It simply means a lack of belief in a deity.

A friend of mine is an atheist and we've had many long discussions of the subject of religion. He actually does believe that there's a 'higher power' but not a 'God'.
 
I want to know why YOU are interested when you really don't want to hear our answers to the questions you ask...

Well me personally? I've been a Fundie for many years so there's nothing to ask except why Fundies keep on believing despite evidence to the contrary. Like Ken Ham for example.
 
I want to know why YOU are interested when you really don't want to hear our answers to the questions you ask...
FYI, most of us are familiar with Christian apologetic works, and have at least attempted to understand what you believe.

You won't even go that far.
 
Why are atheists so interested in what and how people of faith think, when we could not care less what and how atheists think? What is the draw? :confused:

Because the intolerant Christianophobes and religious bigots think they are smarter than you, and that my friend, is precisely why it isn't worth my time to argue my personal beliefs with people like them.

Not all non-believers are like this, but very few on debate forums know how to mind their own business.

eta: now you know why you'll rarely find me posting over here.
BTDT on another forum... what a freakin' waste of my time.
 
A friend of mine is an atheist and we've had many long discussions of the subject of religion. He actually does believe that there's a 'higher power' but not a 'God'.
That sounds like pantheism.
 
This is not correct.

Atheists believe there are no gods, agnostics are not sure, and theists believe in some sort of deity.

I really don't care what religion or 'holy person' someone follows or studies or believes in. I just think that everyone needs that center for their own personal security. The 'what if' game. "Gee, what if I die, maybe there is a god?" As a nurse, I have seen that at end of life bedside care. It's called end of life hedge-betting.
 
A friend of mine is an atheist and we've had many long discussions of the subject of religion. He actually does believe that there's a 'higher power' but not a 'God'.

Ironically I believe that we have souls. There's nothing in the definition of Atheism that forbids the belief in souls, whatever they are. And there's something called spiritual atheism.
 
I agree and think that it would really circumvent most of the problems we're having right now. Faith and religion of course are two entirely separate things. There are people of great faith in God that never mention Him or their faith. Then there are people who wear their religion as though it's a deflective jacket, some border on the deadly sin of pride about it. That's a fine line they walk when they do the religious preaching thing. People should just STFU and "LIVE" their faith, follow the 'golden rule' not hundreds of other rules that are man-made.

Yet, you disregard the fact that is what Jesus commanded us to do...Matthew 28:19,20..if we did not do that, we would be hypocrites...Paul explains that it is not enough for Christians to have faith in their heart, we must make a public declaration of that faith...Hebrews 13:15...
 
Well me personally? I've been a Fundie for many years so there's nothing to ask except why Fundies keep on believing despite evidence to the contrary. Like Ken Ham for example.

Never heard of him...I follow Christ...
 
FYI, most of us are familiar with Christian apologetic works, and have at least attempted to understand what you believe.

You won't even go that far.

For what purpose other than to ridicule, because that's all I see coming from atheists...again, I don't care what or how you think...
 
Are we not allowed to discuss a doctrine that has influenced our society for two millennia? Are we not allowed to seek the truth? Are we not allowed to discuss a faith built upon specious notions and claims?

Are we not allowed the right to free speech? Do we have to accept what the religious tell us to and shut up?
 
I really don't care what religion or 'holy person' someone follows or studies or believes in. I just think that everyone needs that center for their own personal security. The 'what if' game. "Gee, what if I die, maybe there is a god?" As a nurse, I have seen that at end of life bedside care. It's called end of life hedge-betting.
What you're dealing with is called 'Pascal's Wager'.

Pascal's wager - Wikipedia
 
Because the intolerant Christianophobes and religious bigots think they are smarter than you, and that my friend, is precisely why it isn't worth my time to argue my personal beliefs with people like them.

Not all non-believers are like this, but very few on debate forums know how to mind their own business.

eta: now you know why you'll rarely find me posting over here.
BTDT on another forum... what a freakin' waste of my time.

My dear, politics are an even greater waste of time...;)
 
Wow! Six erroneous opinions in one post. THAT'S an atheist/liberal/progressive in one statement.

again we run into an intellectual problem

I am not an atheist and I am not a liberal.

I most definitely am a progressive because only a dolt would not be.
 
For what purpose other than to ridicule, because that's all I see coming from atheists...again, I don't care what or how you think...
I've already explained to you that I did it to educate myself on your culture.

Stop playing the victim on this. You clearly care, or you wouldn't have made this thread.
 
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My dear, politics are an even greater waste of time...;)

Yeah, but that's not what you asked me to comment on, my friend.
I'm not sure why you didn't like my reply.

I gave you my honest opinion, and did answer your question...
Aww well, suit yourself.
Keep telling yourself that you don't care what atheists think... You DO care what they think.
 
Then you do not understand what true faith really is...that is far from what Jesus taught...the truth shall set you free...

Mindless repetitive rhetoric, programmed into you. "The truth shall set you free" is an often misquoted scripture from the King James Bible. The actual passage is from John; "Then Jesus said to those Jews who believed Him, “If you abide in My word, you are My disciples indeed. And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”

The truth will only set you free if you know the truth. It is only speaking of knowing the word of God. It is not talking about being honest, which is how the verse is often misapplied.
 
Are we not allowed to discuss a doctrine that has influenced our society for two millennia? Are we not allowed to seek the truth? Are we not allowed to discuss a faith built upon specious notions and claims?

Are we not allowed the right to free speech? Do we have to accept what the religious tell us to and shut up?

That still does not answer the question...why are you interested or why do you care?
 
Ironically I believe that we have souls. There's nothing in the definition of Atheism that forbids the belief in souls, whatever they are. And there's something called spiritual atheism.
Buddhists believe in karma, reincarnation, and all kinds of spiritual phenomenon, yet they are mostly atheists and agnostics.
 
I've already explained to you that I did to educate myself on your culture.

Stop playing the victim on this. You clearly care, or you wouldn't have made this thread.

Stepping away after this post, but you damn well have this correct.
 
Ironically I believe that we have souls. There's nothing in the definition of Atheism that forbids the belief in souls, whatever they are. And there's something called spiritual atheism.

I was 4 years old when my French Canadian grandmother started telling me about this soul I had somewhere inside my chest and I imagined it looked like the heel of a shoe. What did I know at 4? I had to mentally image it somehow.
 
That still does not answer the question...why are you interested or why do you care?
You've been given multiple answers.

Not liking them doesn't make them any less answers.
 
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