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Rich2018 said:
People who I make an obligation to.


Are you confusing obligation with self imposed duty?
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Um, no...I feel obligated, sorry you don't...
 
devildavid said:
What is 666?
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From ancient times, all the way thru medieval times, it was common to use letters to signify numbers. Jews, Greeks, and Romans all did this; especially with Roman numbers (think of a person named “Dill McDix”). It obviously doesn’t work as well when translating Greek or Hebrew into English, however all letters (and thus, words) were assigned numerical values. In those days, Jewish mystics assumed the words of the Bible were inspired, and thus bore numerical significance, and they spent much time analyzing those numbers. Such an undertaking is known as gematria, and the authors use of the biblical “666” is an example of inserting gematria itself into the story. Nero, written in Greek is “Neron”. And you add the title “Caesar”, then “Neron Caesar” written in Hebrew letters equates to 666. If you remove the “N” at the end of Neron, then number reduces to 616, and some of the old manuscripts of Revelation use that number instead. However, “Nero” was only used symbolically, as there were a number of “Pseudo-Nero” conspiracy theories floating around in the days of Domitian; so it has been largely suggested by academics and historians that “666” was the equivalent to Domitian, who himself was aggressively persecuting Christians at the time of the writing of Revelation. Whoever the author truly was (and was obviously a fan of mysticism; both Babylonian and Jewish), he was obviously reluctant to name Domitian – or even use Nero’s name – as he would be subject to treason and execution.

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devildavid said:
What is 666?
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Six. This number at times represents imperfection. The number of “the wild beast” is 666 and is called “a man’s number,” indicating that it has to do with imperfect, fallen man, and it seems to symbolize the imperfection of that which is represented by “the wild beast.” The number six being emphasized to a third degree (the six appearing in the position of units, tens, and hundreds) therefore highlights the imperfection and deficiency of that which the beast represents, or pictures.​—Re 13:18.
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Number, Numeral — Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY
 
616 was the fax number of the Beast.
 
Omega Man said:
From ancient times, all the way thru medieval times, it was common to use letters to signify numbers. Jews, Greeks, and Romans all did this; especially with Roman numbers (think of a person named “Dill McDix”). It obviously doesn’t work as well when translating Greek or Hebrew into English, however all letters (and thus, words) were assigned numerical values. In those days, Jewish mystics assumed the words of the Bible were inspired, and thus bore numerical significance, and they spent much time analyzing those numbers. Such an undertaking is known as gematria, and the authors use of the biblical “666” is an example of inserting gematria itself into the story. Nero, written in Greek is “Neron”. And you add the title “Caesar”, then “Neron Caesar” written in Hebrew letters equates to 666. If you remove the “N” at the end of Neron, then number reduces to 616, and some of the old manuscripts of Revelation use that number instead. However, “Nero” was only used symbolically, as there were a number of “Pseudo-Nero” conspiracy theories floating around in the days of Domitian; so it has been largely suggested by academics and historians that “666” was the equivalent to Domitian, who himself was aggressively persecuting Christians at the time of the writing of Revelation. Whoever the author truly was (and was obviously a fan of mysticism; both Babylonian and Jewish), he was obviously reluctant to name Domitian – or even use Nero’s name – as he would be subject to treason and execution.

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That is confusing as hell
 
Elvira said:
lol...I take it you don't have children...
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I have a couple. And I would never indoctrinate them into a cult like Christianity or Islam.

IMO that's a disgusting thing to do to a child, but to each their own.
 
Cougarbear said:
Secular teaching is in conflict with Genesis.
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Well duh! Obviously scientists today know far more than goat herders two millennia ago.

LOL, they were figuring out how to smelt a metal. We have computers and space travel.

I don't see why it would hurt to allow creationist scientific teachings into the curriculum.
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Because they're not science. Teach that stuff in Mythology. Or Imaginary Beings.

From what I read from their PhD's in science, physics, geologists and archeologist, there is no reason not to allow it into the books.
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Then you know nothing about science. Put in the hard work of learning something about it, and then you'll understand why.


Let the children and adults decide which they want to believe or perhaps do some investigations on their own. What are the secularists like yourself afraid of?
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Oh goody, that's going to work real well. We start off the school year in Science 10 deciding if the earth is flat or round, and once that get's decided, if there is any time left at the end of the school year, we can move on to "Gravity: What's your opinion?
 
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JustHanging said:
Well duh! Obviously scientists today know far more than goat herders two millennia ago.

LOL, they were figuring out how to smelt a metal. We have computers and space travel.


Because they're not science. Teach that stuff in Mythology. Or Imaginary Beings.



Then you know nothing about science. Put in the hard work of learning something about it, and then you'll understand why.




Oh goody, that's going to work real well. We start off the school year in Science 10 deciding if the earth is flat or round, and once that get's decided, if there is any time left at the end of the school year, we can move on to "Gravity: What's your opinion?
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Not gravity. Intelligent falling.
 
666​—Not Just a Puzzle

“Nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name. Here is where wisdom comes in: Let the one that has intelligence calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is a man’s number; and its number is six hundred and sixty-six.”​—Revelation 13:17, 18.

FEW Bible topics have evoked as much interest and concern as the prophecy about the mysterious mark, or name, of “the wild beast”​—the number 666. On television and the Internet, as well as in movies, books, and magazines, the mark of the beast has been the focus of endless speculation.

Some believe that 666 is the mark of the Biblical antichrist. Others say that it signifies some form of compulsory identification, such as a tattoo or an implanted microchip with a digital code that identifies the person as a servant of the beast. Still others hold that 666 is the mark of the Catholic papacy. Substituting Roman numerals for the letters in a form of the pope’s official title, Vicarius Filii Dei (Vicar of the Son of God), and manipulating the figures a little, they come up with 666. It is also claimed that the same number can be calculated from the Latin name of Roman Emperor Diocletian and from the Hebrew version of the name Nero Caesar.*

These fanciful and contrived interpretations, however, are very different from what the Bible itself says about the mark of the beast, as we shall see in the following article. The Bible does reveal that those with the mark will experience God’s wrath when he brings an end to the present system of things. (Revelation 14:9-11; 19:20) Understanding the meaning of 666, therefore, is much more than just solving an intriguing puzzle. Happily, Jehovah God, the very personification of love and the Source of spiritual light, has not kept his servants in the dark on this important matter.​—2 Timothy 3:16; 1 John 1:5; 4:8.
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666—Not Just a Puzzle — Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY
 
Elvira said:
Well, I guess we'll just have to ask them from now on and while we're at it, we'll get their signature, too...:2razz:
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Yes you should ask them.

When they turn 18 years old. If by that time, they still want part of their penis chopped off then they're free to do so.

BUT liable for any subsequent medical bills.
 
Rich2018 said:
Yes you should ask them.

When they turn 18 years old. If by that time, they still want part of their penis chopped off then they're free to do so.

BUT liable for any subsequent medical bills.
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Are they free to get blood transfusions?
 
NWO_Spook said:
How so? I view them all as specious as each other....
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By what we know about them



Any god. Feel free to take your pick.
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You believe all gods are the same despite varying degrees our modern knowledge of them


Do you accept that there is a possibility that a god might exist.
 
Rich2018 said:
Yes you should ask them.

When they turn 18 years old. If by that time, they still want part of their penis chopped off then they're free to do so.

BUT liable for any subsequent medical bills.
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You have no idea what you're talking about...uncircumcised boys/men have more health problems than circumcised....having the procedure as an adult is also much more dangerous than as an infant...

Circumcision: Pros vs Cons, Benefits, Risks, Procedure Overview
 
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