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12,000 years ago in CHINA vs. 6000 years ago Garden of Eden?

That passage (and the ensuing verses) was directed at Gentile Christians from Rome, and was instructing them to tolerate Jewish Christians who still maintained strict obedience to Jewish religious ritualistic concerns such as dietary laws. Contextually-speaking, those verses have nothing to do with “finding the truth”, but rather simply to tolerate Jewish Christians. Sure, it’s a feel-good verse which one can isolate and apply however they feel, but it had a specific context which bears acknowledging.


OM

ALL Christians are trained by God's Word...

"For all the things that were written beforehand were written for our instruction, so that through our endurance and through the comfort from the Scriptures we might have hope." Romans 15:4

All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, so that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work." 2 Timothy 3:16,17
 
Search for "Is radiocarbon dating accurate?" and enter the great and controversial world of carbon 14 dating. :coffeepap

Good thing we don't use C 14 :roll:

An age of 4.55 ± 0.07 billion years, very close to today's accepted age, was determined by Clair Cameron Patterson using uranium-lead isotope dating (specifically lead-lead dating) on several meteorites including the Canyon Diablo meteorite and published in 1956.

Age of the Earth - Wikipedia
 
How is it that you fail to see that you're supporting exactly what I'm saying? :lamo

No, I am not...many believe certain lies about the Bible...the trinity, hellfire, and the immortal soul, to name a few...
 
ALL Christians are trained by God's Word...

"For all the things that were written beforehand were written for our instruction, so that through our endurance and through the comfort from the Scriptures we might have hope." Romans 15:4

All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, so that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work." 2 Timothy 3:16,17

Yes, all scripture "beneficial for teaching", and part of that teaching is understanding it's explicit context; not just cherry-picking verses because they offer a sound-byte which conforms to some sort of personal preconception.

OM
 
No, I am not...many believe certain lies about the Bible...the trinity, hellfire, and the immortal soul, to name a few...

Anything taken out of context, and which betrays the original texts, is a lie.


OM
 
Yes, all scripture "beneficial for teaching, and part of that teaching is understanding it's explicit context; not just cherry-picking verses because they offer a sound-byte which conforms to some sort of personal preconception.

OM

I do not cherry pick...I consider/believe all scripture...in spite of what you think, that the Bible is a dead book, it is not...it is as alive today as it was when it was written...it pertains to me as much as anybody...I know that galls you, but you'll just have to get over it because it's not gonna change...

"For the word of God is alive and exerts power and is sharper than any two-edged sword and pierces even to the dividing of soul and spirit, and of joints from the marrow, and is able to discern thoughts and intentions of the heart." Hebrews 4:12
 
9,000-year-old settlement unearthed near Jerusalem - CNN Style

Believed to have been inhabited 9,000 years ago, the site has yielded thousands of tools and ornaments, including arrowheads, figurines and jewelry. The findings also provide evidence of sophisticated urban planning and farming, which may force experts to rethink the region's early history, said archeologists involved in the excavation.

The discovery was made near the Israeli town of Motza, about three miles west of Jerusalem.

Whoops...it looks like it's time to re-re-re-re-re-edit the Bible, again.
 
Anything taken out of context, and which betrays the original texts, is a lie.


OM

lol...you are the one who betrays the Bible with every post...
 
I do not cherry pick..

Yet you did precisely that by only selecting a single verse out of a lesson that covered several verses, and then applying it to an altogether different context.


OM
 
ALL Christians are trained by God's Word...

"For all the things that were written beforehand were written for our instruction, so that through our endurance and through the comfort from the Scriptures we might have hope." Romans 15:4

All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, so that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work." 2 Timothy 3:16,17

Then , how come so many believe in the trinity?
 
lol...you are the one who betrays the Bible with every post...

I acknowledge it's geo and socio-political contexts of the original texts, and avoid the "spiritual" dogma so prevalent nowadays. That, by description, exemplifies devotion and fidelity.

Interpreting "spiritually" = creative deviation.


OM
 
You tell me...

Because most people take things out of context, and read things with a bias based on their expectations.
 
Because most people take things out of context, and read things with a bias based on their expectations.

Well, that is not the root problem but that is part of it...Jesus warned that the danger of being misled is great...Matthew 7:13-16; Acts 20:29,30...he did not say that true Christianity would become a broad, easy, universal religion, suited to many...it would be a hard, cramped road, found by only the few...he warned that seemingly false prophets would try in sidetracking them onto the “easy” way “that leads to destruction”...with many, they have succeeded...

"Many false prophets will arise and mislead many" Matthew 24:11
 
Well, that is not the root problem but that is part of it...Jesus warned that the danger of being misled is great...Matthew 7:13-16; Acts 20:29,30...he did not say that true Christianity would become a broad, easy, universal religion, suited to many...it would be a hard, cramped road, found by only the few...he warned that seemingly false prophets would try in sidetracking them onto the “easy” way “that leads to destruction”...with many, they have succeeded...

"Many false prophets will arise and mislead many" Matthew 24:11

And, of course, they will claim the JW's are following a false prophet, and that leads the way to destruction.
 
And, of course, they will claim the JW's are following a false prophet, and that leads the way to destruction.

And of course, everyone has to investigate for themselves...

"Beloved ones, do not believe every inspired statement, but test the inspired statements to see whether they originate with God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world." 1 John 4:1
 
What's ridiculous is the claim that the biblical Adam & Eve actually existed, and that it was roughly 6000 years ago.

There are those who make that exact claim.

An entire museum I believe. However I have not been there to verify...and am not likely to spend any money on such nonsense, ever.
 
And of course, everyone has to investigate for themselves...

"Beloved ones, do not believe every inspired statement, but test the inspired statements to see whether they originate with God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world." 1 John 4:1

Which of course referred to a broader lesson outlined within the subsequent verses; none of which had anything to do with general disagreements as to scriptural interpretation itself, and had to do solely with countering competing Docetic-type Christian ideologies.


OM
 
And of course, everyone has to investigate for themselves...

"Beloved ones, do not believe every inspired statement, but test the inspired statements to see whether they originate with God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world." 1 John 4:1

How exactly do you test "inspired" statements?
 
Some religious differences are, for sure...but age of earth stuff isn't all that fundamental to faith, which is what I am talking about. It's not a hotly debated topic. It just isn't, no matter how much you really really want it to be... :lol:

As for changing our tune when "confronting nonbelievers"... lol … I mean, I do this debate thing for entertainment purposes, I'm on this forum anyway, and happen to be interested in religion. But don't inflate your own importance. Nobody cares enough about atheists think of us to pretend for them. Why bother, you make it clear enough on a very very very regular basis...hehe... There's literally nothing we could do to earn your respect and tolerance, so why change our stance on what we feel is important for your benefit? lol...good grief. (Bunch of universal you's in there, not calling you out specifically, though sometimes you certainly fit the bill).

Nah, bud...hehe...it is what it is. Some things get debated vigorously, I've seen churches rip themselves apart over differences of opinion or theology. But the age of the earth isn't one of those things in any circle I've been in. If it happens, it's an outlier, and not one I'm aware of.

Why do you make everything personal?
 
Grow up, this is a silly look on you. I've already addressed this. I sometimes "mock" people, and sometimes they turn out to be Christians. I do not mock all Christians because they are Christians...don't worry, your schtick is safe.


You mock Christians for their particular approach to Christianity.
 
How exactly do you test "inspired" statements?

Testing what you have been taught by comparing it with the Bible...is it in harmony with what the Bible says?
 
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