• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

12,000 years ago in CHINA vs. 6000 years ago Garden of Eden?

Dragonfly

DP Veteran
Joined
Oct 18, 2007
Messages
31,346
Reaction score
19,888
Location
East Coast - USA
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Centrist
12,000 years ago, a boy had his skull squashed into a cone shape | Fox News


Ancient people in China practiced human head-shaping about 12,000 years ago — meaning they bound some children's maturing skulls, encouraging the heads to grow into elongated ovals — making them the oldest group on record to purposefully squash their skulls, a new study finds.While excavating a Neolithic site (the last period of the Stone Age) at Houtaomuga, Jilin province, in northeast China, the archaeologists found 11 elongated skulls — belonging to both males and females and ranging from toddlers to adults

So what's the deal here? How could Adam & Eve and the whole Garden of Eden thing happen roughly 6000 years ago, but yet we have skulls in northeast China from roughly 12,000 years ago?
 
Search for "Is radiocarbon dating accurate?" and enter the great and controversial world of carbon 14 dating. :coffeepap

What are the radiocarbon dates for Adam and Eve?
 
You can't reason someone out of a position that they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

Its good effort, but...a waste. Its like sitting in a rocking chair. It gives you something to do, but you don't actually get anywhere.
 
How about, before people knew how to write, proper record keeping was problematic.
If we have oral records passed down for several thousand years, what are the chances they might get a few things wrong?
The biblical 6000 years is a result of someone adding up all the ages listed in the book of Genesis.
 
How about, before people knew how to write, proper record keeping was problematic.
If we have oral records passed down for several thousand years, what are the chances they might get a few things wrong?
The biblical 6000 years is a result of someone adding up all the ages listed in the book of Genesis.

So there might be "inaccuracies" and even flat-out "false claims" in the bible????
 
Satan, the fossils were placed by Satan to test the faith of Mankind (or by god to test the faith of Mankind)

Or

The Chinese are not the children of god, as such they are the descendants of demons. They are not the children of Adam and Eve, but from Demons and Lilith (Look up the story regarding Lilith it is pretty interesting )


Or

The scientists are wrong, carbon dating and other techniques are wrong due to the instability of the universe when god was creating it, making all such testing unreliable
 
Search for "Is radiocarbon dating accurate?" and enter the great and controversial world of carbon 14 dating. :coffeepap

Yes - there's some controversy, but it hasn't been proven to be wrong by orders of magnitude that might suggest something determined to be 12,000 years old is actually only 2000 years old.


The issues with it are typically more when looking at things older than 20,000 years.

So the 12,000 year old skull is surely well within a confidence level of >95% (guessing here) regarding age.
 
So there might be "inaccuracies" and even flat-out "false claims" in the bible????
Of Course! it has been re written many times and over a time where languages were being developed.
Consider the likelyhood of a person reading Geoffrey Chaucer grasping all the subtle meanings in middle English?
Look at how much English changed between Chaucer and Shakespeare?
Now drop back to prehistoric Hebrew, the entire structure of how thought is conveyed in words is different.
 
So there might be "inaccuracies" and even flat-out "false claims" in the bible????

Careful, you might get some on you.... :lol: Hopefully you have a cigarette for later.
 
A few miles from our home [without the alien skull procedure]
Leanderthal Lady in Texas - StoppingPoints.com

You Atheists harp on the most ridiculous things. But your love for the Commies shines through.

What's ridiculous is the claim that the biblical Adam & Eve actually existed, and that it was roughly 6000 years ago.

There are those who make that exact claim.
 
Or even metaphors. [that's' just to confuse the faithless]

You do understand that some people don't think the Adam & Eve story is a metaphor, right?
Some think it's historically accurate fact.
 
How about, before people knew how to write, proper record keeping was problematic.
If we have oral records passed down for several thousand years, what are the chances they might get a few things wrong?
The biblical 6000 years is a result of someone adding up all the ages listed in the book of Genesis.

Bishop Usher. One may as well add up the dates in Tolkien's works.
 
Satan, the fossils were placed by Satan to test the faith of Mankind (or by god to test the faith of Mankind)

Or

The Chinese are not the children of god, as such they are the descendants of demons. They are not the children of Adam and Eve, but from Demons and Lilith (Look up the story regarding Lilith it is pretty interesting )


Or

The scientists are wrong, carbon dating and other techniques are wrong due to the instability of the universe when god was creating it, making all such testing unreliable

Or the Bible is fiction.
 
How about, before people knew how to write, proper record keeping was problematic.
If we have oral records passed down for several thousand years, what are the chances they might get a few things wrong?
The biblical 6000 years is a result of someone adding up all the ages listed in the book of Genesis.

Yeah, honestly, I would guess that the number of Christians who get hung up on a 6000 year old world are not in the majority, and are pretty centralized by denomination. I grew up in the church, and didn't even hear about a 6000 year old world until I met someone from the Missionary denomination, and I was in my early twenties at that point. Same person wanted to tell me that people and dinosaurs co-existed....hehe...
 
Back
Top Bottom