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The Morality Of The Christian God Of The Bible

it's just me said:
Everything you post is a troll post.
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If you believe that to be true then:

1) why do consistently participate?
2) why is it that sometimes you post more than just about anyone else?
3) why do you consistently make yourself look like such a self-righteous, pompous buffoon?
 
nota bene said:
That topic is "How would you rate the 'morality' of the "Christian God" of the Bible?" My answer is that I am not in the position to evaluate God. Again, Creator vs created.
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Of course you are. Why couldn't you?

You evaluated the Christian god against all the other gods out there didn't you?
Hindu? Pagan? Islam (same god, different book)?

What's wrong with digging into your own beliefs and evaluating everything about your own faith?
Wouldn't god want you to do that on a regular basis?

Or do think "blind faith" is the best path to salvation?
 
Dragonfly said:
Of course you are. Why couldn't you?

You evaluated the Christian god against all the other gods out there didn't you?
Hindu? Pagan? Islam (same god, different book)?

What's wrong with digging into your own beliefs and evaluating everything about your own faith?
Wouldn't god want you to do that on a regular basis?

Or do think "blind faith" is the best path to salvation?
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My faith is not blind. I don't think anything is wrong with digging into one's own beliefs and questioning them. How presumptuous of you to assume that I haven't.
 
Dragonfly said:
If you believe that to be true then:

1) why do consistently participate?
2) why is it that sometimes you post more than just about anyone else?
3) why do you consistently make yourself look like such a self-righteous, pompous buffoon?
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I frequently hear people projecting their faults onto others. It's a sign of insecurity.
 
Omega Man said:
According to John J. Collins (1946) the Holmes Professor of Old Testament Criticism & Interpretation at Yale Divinity School.in his book The Apocalyptic Imagination: An Introduction to Jewish Apocalyptic Literature (New York: Crossroad, 1984; 2nd ed. Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1998)..." All but the most Conservative scholars now accept the conclusion that the Book of Daniyl is not a product of the Babylonian Era , but reached its present form in the second century B.C.E. Daniyl is not a historical person but a figure of Legend. ".

OM
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Like I say, my jury is still out.

What do you mean, figure of legend?

I don't know, the author had to be quite a science fiction writer.

Somebody had those visions.

Possibly an early Essene vegetarian.

Why would meat-eaters promote the legend of a vegetarian?

To just make it up?

Unless it were true.

I have no difficulty with the validity of these stories.

I know by what I've experienced and my first hand accounts that life a little more advanced is surly a fact.

So what is the fact, that is what I want to know.

I've made a full backpack as light as a piece of Styrofoam and my clothing disintegrated if I handled them this way.

I know that levitation and walking in the stars is only a matter of requisites.

I've been out there etherically, but the next level wants to carry a camera and then a backpack but I'm not so interested in investing my energy this way right now.

Spaceship, anything one can imagine at my fingertips and what do I do? Write to you of it.

So plausibility and doubt are equal here.

I guess if you can divide the word of truth here, than you can do so.

Very interesting.

Nonsense, If you take Israel then and you take the best of their children into Babylonian captivity and train them in your arts you easily get Daniel.
 
Dragonfly said:
You're avoiding the question.

How is murdering an infant, for the sins of the parents, moral?
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I'm fine with God's justice on wicked men and wicked cultures. At least the innocent babies wind up in heaven. With your version of secular humanism the aborted babies get flushed down the toilet or incinerated.

I even approve of him casting stiff-necked unbelievers into the Lake of Fire.

You don't approve? Too bad.
 
Omega Man said:
According to John J. Collins (1946) the Holmes Professor of Old Testament Criticism & Interpretation at Yale Divinity School.in his book The Apocalyptic Imagination: An Introduction to Jewish Apocalyptic Literature (New York: Crossroad, 1984; 2nd ed. Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1998)..." All but the most Conservative scholars now accept the conclusion that the Book of Daniyl is not a product of the Babylonian Era , but reached its present form in the second century B.C.E. Daniyl is not a historical person but a figure of Legend. ".

OM
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Where else did this potency go?

Was Nebuchadnezzar able to create a big demon? Were they all crap and in shame needed to raise a hero and the Lord gave them visions for their text?

These texts were passed down and distributed very carefully to prevent anomalies.
 
Dragonfly said:
Interesting.
How do you respond to the idea then that many people derive their morals from god?
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Morality is how we decide something is right or wrong most people believe God is perfect unable to do wrong so what use does he have for morality?
 
Exquisitor said:
Like I say, my jury is still out.

What do you mean, figure of legend?

I don't know, the author had to be quite a science fiction writer.

Somebody had those visions.

Possibly an early Essene vegetarian.

Why would meat-eaters promote the legend of a vegetarian?

To just make it up?

Unless it were true.

I have no difficulty with the validity of these stories.

I know by what I've experienced and my first hand accounts that life a little more advanced is surly a fact.

So what is the fact, that is what I want to know.

I've made a full backpack as light as a piece of Styrofoam and my clothing disintegrated if I handled them this way.

I know that levitation and walking in the stars is only a matter of requisites.

I've been out there etherically, but the next level wants to carry a camera and then a backpack but I'm not so interested in investing my energy this way right now.

Spaceship, anything one can imagine at my fingertips and what do I do? Write to you of it.

So plausibility and doubt are equal here.

I guess if you can divide the word of truth here, than you can do so.

Very interesting.

Nonsense, If you take Israel then and you take the best of their children into Babylonian captivity and train them in your arts you easily get Daniel.
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King Arthur is a derivative. So too King Midas. And let’s not forget Robin Hood. Abraham and Moses are no exception, all sorts of ancient cultures had legendary progenitors; Judeo-Christianity and Islam are no exception either.


OM
 
Logicman said:
I'm fine with God's justice on wicked men and wicked cultures. At least the innocent babies wind up in heaven. With your version of secular humanism the aborted babies get flushed down the toilet or incinerated.

I even approve of him casting stiff-necked unbelievers into the Lake of Fire.

You don't approve? Too bad.
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Perhaps you should consider instructing your family to bury you with Orphic texts when you die. That way you might -just might receive favor from the judges of the underworld, who in turn will allow you to drink from the Pool of Memory.


OM
 
Logicman said:
I'm fine with God's justice on wicked men and wicked cultures. At least the innocent babies wind up in heaven. With your version of secular humanism the aborted babies get flushed down the toilet or incinerated.

I even approve of him casting stiff-necked unbelievers into the Lake of Fire.

You don't approve? Too bad.
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Huh. Actively entertaining fantasies of torture.

WHAT a surprise.
 
Lursa said:
I have never heard or read such a thing. We are His servants...where did you read otherwise?
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How else would we exist?

How about Christ? Did He serve himself? Certainly. How about Krishna? He was Arjuna's charioteer.

Our definitions of servant are off, but this is what we have done from the beginning is order God around.
 
Exquisitor said:
How else would we exist?

How about Christ? Did He serve himself? Certainly. How about Krishna? He was Arjuna's charioteer.

Our definitions of servant are off, but this is what we have done from the beginning is order God around.
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We exist just fine whether or not we believe or not. So that's just an odd, sort of meaningless question.

It has nothing to do with who serves who. We serve the Lord...not the other way around which is what you wrote.
 
Omega Man said:
King Arthur is a derivative. So too King Midas. And let’s not forget Robin Hood. Abraham and Moses are no exception, all sorts of ancient cultures had legendary progenitors; Judeo-Christianity and Islam are no exception either.

OM
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Only possibly so we must look very hard.

You can't compare those heroes to one of the prophets or their fictional past like Joseph to whom Daniel is compared in Scripture.

It would be like doubting Samuel or Elijah to say they didn't do miracles or live in miraculous times.
 
Lursa said:
We exist just fine whether or not we believe or not. So that's just an odd, sort of meaningless question.

It has nothing to do with who serves who. We serve the Lord...not the other way around which is what you wrote.
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I think Ex makes a good point. Without knowing for certain what God is, man has deemed us as its servants, yet all the while God (whatever it truly is) serving our purpose.


OM
 
Lursa said:
We exist just fine whether or not we believe or not. So that's just an odd, sort of meaningless question.

It has nothing to do with who serves who. We serve the Lord...not the other way around which is what you wrote.
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Yes, we serve the Lord, but He has to be our servant for us to do that.
 
Exquisitor said:
Only possibly so we must look very hard.

You can't compare those heroes to one of the prophets or their fictional past like Joseph to whom Daniel is compared in Scripture.

It would be like doubting Samuel or Elijah to say they didn't do miracles or live in miraculous times.
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The legend of Elijah too was based upon an actual prophet, but whose oral tales became the stuff of myths and legends akin to an archetypal “thunder god”. Not exactly unheard of for tales with origins in ancient Canaan.


OM
 
Logicman said:
I'm fine with God's justice on wicked men and wicked cultures. At least the innocent babies wind up in heaven. With your version of secular humanism the aborted babies get flushed down the toilet or incinerated.

I even approve of him casting stiff-necked unbelievers into the Lake of Fire.

You don't approve? Too bad.
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Why won't you answer a simple question?

Is killing an infant, for the sins of their parents, moral?
 
Omega Man said:
I think Ex makes a good point. Without knowing for certain what God is, man has deemed us as its servants, yet all the while God (whatever it truly is) serving our purpose.


OM
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For what purpose is God serving us? (And I do have an answer)
 
it's just me said:
I frequently hear people projecting their faults onto others. It's a sign of insecurity.
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More avoidance.

Why do you frequently and consistently respond to posts/threads if you deem them to be troll-threads?
 
Omega Man said:
To the individual, God confirms our biases.


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According to you and Ex, He created those biases. You are following Him and His Word. So, that doesnt work, sorry.
 
Lursa said:
According to you and Ex, He created those biases. You are following Him and His Word. So, that doesnt work, sorry.
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I never said any such thing. You must have me confused with somebody else again. I don't even know what God is, much less "follow" it.


OM
 
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