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Why I am Not a Christian

NWO_Spook said:
Anyway, how does the fact that Pilatus existed prove the Bible inerrant? It doesn't.
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War and Peace belongs in the History section, because Napoleon is in it.


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NWO_Spook said:
Do revise the exchange for clarity, as I initially replied to a post regarding evidence for the resurrection.

Anyway, how does the fact that Pilatus existed prove the Bible inerrant? It doesn't.
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How does it prove the resurrection too, or the other supernatural claims of the New Testament, such as the alleged miracles, the concept of Jesus literally being the Son of God (a very pagan concept), and things like that.
 
RAMOSS said:
How does it prove the resurrection too, or the other supernatural claims of the New Testament, such as the alleged miracles, the concept of Jesus literally being the Son of God (a very pagan concept), and things like that.
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It doesn't.
 
saltydancin said:
Now there's a jihad - lynching handbook of Christiananality pedophilia business in the Christian Nation's cross conditioned way beyond therapy organized crime propaganda of lynching enforcement.
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Fledermaus said:
Google translate has failed you.
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But cha gotta admit...it's an excellent word salad...:2razz:
 
Argument #1
Ever since Adam being driven out of Eden, humans are living in a realm deeply influenced by Satan. It's portrayed as a wilderness filled with wolves. God's job here is to look for His sheep and to save them in terms of souls but not bodies.

A close analogy is how to build an aquarium of fishes. Earth is like a filter to facilitate a clear aquarium (which is heaven). Your argument suggests that the filer should be clean. It's in the contrary, the filter is supposed to be the most dirty part of the system such that a clean aquarium can be secured. Earth is for everything evil to be demonstrated for God to destroy them openly once and for all. When everything dirty is gathered in the filter, then clean it up!

argument #2
If you are living in a country with more than 3000 years of written history (such as China), you should know nothing about an author can be confirmed. It's by faith how history itself stands. Ancient history in China was written in bamboos. None of them can be conserved till now. We can't examine any evidence on how it was written as nothing original can be left for our speculation. It's all rely on how information are passed generation after generation till now. Faith is thus needed to believe that both the author and book contents are creditable.

From a more in-depth perspective, ancient history will have to rely on how the credibility of the writings and authors were examined back to the moment the original first document was made. The assumption is that if a writing speaks the truth, people back then will examine its credibility (including its author and contents) and decide whether to accept it as real. You need faith because this same mechanism can also be employed to spread falsehood as we as today's human can't confirm how people back then examined the credibility. This is the nature of what history itself is.

argument #3
Our scientists have not yet discovered what human consciousness is. Researches by far seem to conclude that our consciousness may not fully be a result of our brain chemistry. It's more like a quantum supercomputer which our brain chemistry may not fully accountable for.
 
Hawkins said:
Argument #1
Ever since Adam being driven out of Eden, humans are living in a realm deeply influenced by Satan....
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What about the bit where god drowned almost every human on Earth. Wouldn't you call the a pretty big influence on humans?

...it's portrayed as a wilderness filled with wolves. God's job here is to look for His sheep and to save them in terms of souls but not bodies...
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So were any souls saved from the cities of Nineveh, Sodom & Gomorrah?

Even the children?

Was is not also god's influence?


...Earth is for everything evil to be demonstrated for God to destroy them openly once and for all. When everything dirty is gathered in the filter, then clean it up!
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By killing people


...argument #2
Ancient history in China was written in bamboos. None of them can be conserved till now. We can't examine any evidence on how it was written as nothing original can be left for our speculation. It's all rely on how information are passed generation after generation till now. Faith is thus needed to believe that both the author and book contents are creditable.....
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But the Chinese could write. Surly a better place for a god to find a more discerning audience?
Why were the Israelites a chosen people - even if history shows them as anything but.

...ancient history will have to rely on how the credibility of the writings and authors were examined back to the moment the original first document was made. The assumption is that if a writing speaks the truth, people back then will examine its credibility (including its author and contents) and decide whether to accept it as real. You need faith because this same mechanism can also be employed to spread falsehood as we as today's human can't confirm how people back then examined the credibility. This is the nature of what history itself is...
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I some cases we don't have the originals like Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.

argument #3
Our scientists have not yet discovered what human consciousness is. Researches by far seem to conclude that our consciousness may not fully be a result of our brain chemistry. It's more like a quantum supercomputer which our brain chemistry may not fully accountable for.
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Are you talking about inherited memories?
 
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