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Karma - Is it real

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Do you believe in Karma?

Is it a real thing?

Instant? Almost instant? Long term?

I don't believe in the re-birth kind of Karma, but occasionally the more instant kinds of Karma are fun to witness.
What goes around comes around kinda thing.

What do you think?

Where do you fall on the whole "karma" thing?
 
I don't believe in karma. Time for the old joke. My karma has run over my dogma.
 
Karma, I think it would be a good idea I suppose.

But given the way this world is, I’m gonna go with nah.
 
Do you believe in Karma?

Is it a real thing?

Instant? Almost instant? Long term?

I don't believe in the re-birth kind of Karma, but occasionally the more instant kinds of Karma are fun to witness.
What goes around comes around kinda thing.

What do you think?

Where do you fall on the whole "karma" thing?

I believe in Karma, but not as a supernatural force. What goes around comes around is probably how I'd say it if I didn't want to say Karma...which I say to mean the same thing.

Also, I tend to think of it in a connected sense...so, flipping a guy off in the car on the way in to work and then stubbing your toe wouldn't be karma, to my way of thinking...but finding out the guy is your new boss would.

lol...does that make sense? Because in re-reading it I'm getting a little turned around myself...hehe... Ah well, I know I can count on you to ask for clarification if it's required. ;)
 
No...I do believe what the Bible says though...you reap what you sow sooner or later...it may not be today, it may not be tomorrow, but you will reap what you sow...there is no way around it...

"What I have seen is that those who plow what is harmful And those who sow trouble will reap the same." Job 4:8

"Do not be misled: God is not one to be mocked. For whatever a person is sowing, this he will also reap;" Galatians 6:7
 
No...I do believe what the Bible says though...you reap what you sow sooner or later...it may not be today, it may not be tomorrow, but you will reap what you sow...there is no way around it...

Uhhh....how does that jibe with the whole "forgiveness" thing? Repenting for one's sins?
 
Everything happens for a reason. Sometimes the reason is that you were stupid and made bad choices.
 
Uhhh....how does that jibe with the whole "forgiveness" thing? Repenting for one's sins?

I think you might be talking about two different things, though. One can repent of their sins and still face consequences. God forgives...many humans do not. Therefore it is possible that God may have forgiven you, but you still take an ass whooping at the hands of those you have wronged. Further, I would suggest that that verse speaks to more than just sinning - if you do good, you will get good in return would be the opposite side of that same coin.

(Sorry, Elvira, for jumping in...I have a job interview today that I'm nervous about, so I'm kind of going overboard with the whole responding thing...anxiety tactic)
 
Uhhh....how does that jibe with the whole "forgiveness" thing? Repenting for one's sins?

Uh, what does that have to do with forgiveness? Even if one repents and is forgiven, they still have to reap what they've sown in their sins...example, a convicted murderer still has to go to prison, a promiscuous person who contracts a deadly disease, such as AIDS, still has it...SMH...
 
I think you might be talking about two different things, though. One can repent of their sins and still face consequences. God forgives...many humans do not. Therefore it is possible that God may have forgiven you, but you still take an ass whooping at the hands of those you have wronged. Further, I would suggest that that verse speaks to more than just sinning - if you do good, you will get good in return would be the opposite side of that same coin.

(Sorry, Elvira, for jumping in...I have a job interview today that I'm nervous about, so I'm kind of going overboard with the whole responding thing...anxiety tactic)

Hey, no problem...hope all goes well!
 
I definitely believe what comes around goes around.
 
Uh, what does that have to do with forgiveness? Even if one repents and is forgiven, they still have to reap what they've sown in their sins...example, a convicted murderer still has to go to prison, a promiscuous person who contracts a deadly disease, such as AIDS, still has it...SMH...

So you're talking more short-term Karma?

Not eternal Karma?
 
I have a job interview today that I'm nervous about, so I'm kind of going overboard with the whole responding thing...anxiety tactic

Stop for slight derailment:

What's the job? Pay increase? Relocation? Something more in tune with your personal enjoyment?
 
No, it is the law of cause and effect that Jehovah God put into motion with creation...Proverbs 1:31-33...

Karma (/ˈkɑːrmə/; Sanskrit: कर्म, translit. karma, IPA: [ˈkɐɽmɐ] (About this soundlisten); Pali: kamma) means action, work or deed;[1] it also refers to the spiritual principle of cause and effect where intent and actions of an individual (cause) influence the future of that individual (effect).[2] Good intent and good deeds contribute to good karma and happier rebirths , while bad intent and bad deeds contribute to bad karma and bad rebirths.[3][4]

Karma has been around for MUCH longer than anything Jehovah's Witness has.

You're just playing semantics.

It's rather fun to watch.
 
Karma has been around for MUCH longer than anything Jehovah's Witness has.

You're just playing semantics.

It's rather fun to watch.

Longer than creation, huh?:roll:
 
Stop for slight derailment:

What's the job? Pay increase? Relocation? Something more in tune with your personal enjoyment?

haha...uh. Well, I'm not 100% sure. It's a logistics analyst position, similar to what I'm doing now, but a different industry - the automotive industry in Canada is a bit uncertain at the moment, and I'm not a giant fan of it, to be honest - it's a brutal industry culture. The one I'm going for would be better money, closer to home, and yeah, more in tune with my personal enjoyment.

As someone who has pretty heavy duty anxiety, interviews are a challenge. I do well, but they are very taxing...more so because I'm very much wanting to get out of where I'm at. Adulting is tough. :) I'm also excited though - I think my chances are good, there's a bit of a warm market connection.

To bring it back, sort of, I'm a Matthew 6 kinda guy...today I'm especially enjoying chapters 28-34. :) You might find that silly...that's ok.
 
haha...uh. Well, I'm not 100% sure. It's a logistics analyst position, similar to what I'm doing now, but a different industry - the automotive industry in Canada is a bit uncertain at the moment, and I'm not a giant fan of it, to be honest - it's a brutal industry culture. The one I'm going for would be better money, closer to home, and yeah, more in tune with my personal enjoyment.

As someone who has pretty heavy duty anxiety, interviews are a challenge. I do well, but they are very taxing...more so because I'm very much wanting to get out of where I'm at. Adulting is tough. :) I'm also excited though - I think my chances are good, there's a bit of a warm market connection.

To bring it back, sort of, I'm a Matthew 6 kinda guy...today I'm especially enjoying chapters 28-34. :) You might find that silly...that's ok.

Good words to keep in mind...another to keep in mind...Psalm 37:25...

"I was once young and now I am old,
But I have not seen anyone righteous abandoned,
Nor his children looking for bread."
 
haha...uh. Well, I'm not 100% sure. It's a logistics analyst position, similar to what I'm doing now, but a different industry - the automotive industry in Canada is a bit uncertain at the moment, and I'm not a giant fan of it, to be honest - it's a brutal industry culture. The one I'm going for would be better money, closer to home, and yeah, more in tune with my personal enjoyment.

As someone who has pretty heavy duty anxiety, interviews are a challenge. I do well, but they are very taxing...more so because I'm very much wanting to get out of where I'm at. Adulting is tough. :) I'm also excited though - I think my chances are good, there's a bit of a warm market connection.

To bring it back, sort of, I'm a Matthew 6 kinda guy...today I'm especially enjoying chapters 28-34. :) You might find that silly...that's ok.


Good luck dude!!!

:party:rock
 
Everything happens for a reason. Sometimes the reason is that you were stupid and made bad choices.

I just can't agree with your first sentence. I'll just repeat what I said 4 years ago.

The “everything happens for a reason” sentiment is a perfect example of something that people accept and repeat without even really understanding it, let alone challenging it. I understand that it's a sentiment uttered with the best of intentions, and it is important to acknowledge a person’s grief. You can do that by offering support, friendship, and love, there's no need for such a nonsensical phrase. I don't understand why it's used so often.

Everything does not happen for a reason. Sometimes bad things can and will just happen, for no reason at all. That's the reality.
 
Everything does not happen for a reason. Sometimes bad things can and will just happen, for no reason at all. That's the reality.

True.

Sometimes it's just bad luck.
Being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Sometimes really good people, doing really good things pay awful prices.
 
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