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Non-Religious Parenting

EMNofSeattle said:
I think it’s cruel to put something of such importance solely on a child, they’re looking to their parents to set the foundation
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It depends on how it's handled. Empowerment is very important.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
I think it’s cruel to put something of such importance solely on a child, they’re looking to their parents to set the foundation
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You do realize that it's possible he told his adult son?

Also, "such importance"? :roll:
 
noonereal said:
Is this a serious question?

The real question is, "why is it still legal to teach kids trash?"
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Exactly. Coercing children into a religion is mental abuse and should be a criminal offence. It happened to me. I will never get back those eight years being taught absurdities and unreason in Catholic schools.
 
PoS said:
I told my son he can pick and choose what he believes in.
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I have to come in there...

If you choose what you believe you are lying to yourself.

You should examine the world, think about it, and then find out what you think is the most likely to be true.
 
Logician Man said:
Is there anything inherently wrong with a non-religious parent being honest with their child about their worldview regarding religious matters ?
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There are some good non religious families I know and they do not shoot down those who believe. I do not agree with the idea to teach their children to verbally and physically attack anyone who do believe.
Let me make this clear to you liberal/Demos and fence straddlers...I do not agree and that's it. I am not going to have a face off(it's cheap fun) with any parent. it's their business.
 
Sweden said:
Exactly. Coercing children into a religion is mental abuse and should be a criminal offence. It happened to me. I will never get back those eight years being taught absurdities and unreason in Catholic schools.
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I had 12 years of religious schooling plus 5 years at home pre school.

Real hard core stuff. Not sure how I was able to break free. "Than God I did." LOL ;)
 
PTF said:
There are some good non religious families I know and they do not shoot down those who believe. I do not agree with the idea to teach their children to verbally and physically attack anyone who do believe.
Let me make this clear to you liberal/Demos and fence straddlers...I do not agree and that's it. I am not going to have a face off(it's cheap fun) with any parent. it's their business.
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No concern for the innocent children who are not taught about he one true God?

Your complacency damns them.

That does not sound very Christian. How do you justify that to yourself?

How will you justify that on judgement day?
 
noonereal said:
No concern for the innocent children who are not taught about he one true God?

Your complacency damns them.

That does not sound very Christian. How do you justify that to yourself?

How will you justify that on judgement day?
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I said it's their business not mine. You were better off not responding.
 
PTF said:
I said it's their business not mine. .
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Not according to the Christian faith.


You have an obligation to others.

You need to change this attitude right now, repent, then get out there and spread the word of the one true God.
 
Logician Man said:
Is there anything inherently wrong with a non-religious parent being honest with their child about their worldview regarding religious matters ?
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No just as there isnt anything inherently wrong with a religious parent doing the same
 
Logician Man said:
Is there anything inherently wrong with a non-religious parent being honest with their child about their worldview regarding religious matters ?
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Perhaps it's best to define "child" here?

What age range?

Is the child asking questions?

Perhaps a little more detail would help?
 
Dragonfly said:
Perhaps it's best to define "child" here?

What age range?

Is the child asking questions?

Perhaps a little more detail would help?
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A child is defined as under 18.

Not sure how someone would not know.
 
Quag said:
Okay any reason why?
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Because we have an obligation to our youth to provide them with the stronger template possible and as we all know religion flies in the face of logical thought and science.

You wind up confusing and marginalizing them. Using resources that might otherwise be used to advance the species.

You retard normal health thought.
 
noonereal said:
A child is defined as under 18.

Not sure how someone would not know.
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I fully understand the legal definition. That's not what or why I was asking.

There's a hell of difference between discussing god, religion, and world views with a 17 year old, and a 5 year old wouldn't ya say?

"Child" is too broad a term to use here I think.

The OP is the one to answer my question, which is why I quoted the OP.
 
noonereal said:
Because we have an obligation to our youth to provide them with the stronger template possible and as we all know religion flies in the face of logical thought and science.

You wind up confusing and marginalizing them. Using resources that might otherwise be used to advance the species.

You retard normal health thought.
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Being hoenst doesnt retard the ability to think. Being dishonest with your children can cause lots of problems. Now I agree that indoctrination of extremist beleifs is bad but the OP was about being honest and lets face it extremists will try to indoctrinate their children anyway.
 
Dragonfly said:
I fully understand the legal definition. That's not what or why I was asking.

There's a hell of difference between discussing god, religion, and world views with a 17 year old, and a 5 year old wouldn't ya say?

"Child" is too broad a term to use here I think.

The OP is the one to answer my question, which is why I quoted the OP.
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Then use the terms that define the age group you are speaking to.

:)
 
Quag said:
Being hoenst doesnt retard the ability to think. Being dishonest with your children can cause lots of problems. Now I agree that indoctrination of extremist beleifs is bad but the OP was about being honest and lets face it extremists will try to indoctrinate their children anyway.
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You mean teach a child about religions as a curiosity?

As a part of a general profile of humans, like we were taught about the aboriginal people of Australia?

Yes, at a certain age it is wise to do so.
 
noonereal said:
Then use the terms that define the age group you are speaking to.

:)
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I asked the OP. You are not the OP.

You should probably stop trying to define a thread direction when it's a thread you didn't create.
 
Dragonfly said:
I asked the OP. You are not the OP.

You should probably stop trying to define a thread direction when it's a thread you didn't create.
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WTF

It's an open forum dude and it is customary for folks to add to the conversation or the thread would not exist at all.

We have this thing called a dictionary. You were in need. You should be thanking me.

Don't be so think skinned. It's not a good look. Very Trumpian.,
 
noonereal said:
You mean teach a child about religions as a curiosity?


As a part of a general profile of humans, like we were taught about the aboriginal people of Australia?
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No not curiosity, teach a child about religions to avoid prejudice based on ignorance
Yes, at a certain age it is wise to do so.
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As soon as a child has a vocabulary that makes discussion possible it is wise
 
Quag said:
No not curiosity, teach a child about religions to avoid prejudice based on ignorance

As soon as a child has a vocabulary that makes discussion possible it is wise
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You mean teach kids young to steer clar, got it. Yes, I agree. Like a "just say no" campaign.

Good point. I had not thought of that.
 
noonereal said:
You mean teach kids young to steer clar, got it. Yes, I agree. Like a "just say no" campaign.

Good point. I had not thought of that.
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A just say no campaign is a campaign based on ignorance. A good exposure to various religious writings and beliefs , as well the reasons and consequences of the beliefs based on those writings is also essential. It is also a good spring board to teach about both ethnics, the role of historical belief and critical thinking too.
 
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