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Jehovah's Witnesses leader encountered buying a haul of Scotch on a Sunday morning

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Nothing like a religious hypocrite....LOL



Jehovah’s Witnesses leader encountered buying a haul of Scotch on a Sunday morning | The Underground Bunker

Lloyd Evans revealed a surprising bit of video that came in from a tipster who had filmed a Jehovah’s Witnesses governing body member, Tony Morris, shopping for Macallan Scotch at a liquor store at 11 am on a Sunday morning in Ramsey, New Jersey.

Lloyd explains just how rare it is to run into a governing member in the wild at all, but to see him talking about various brands of whiskey and walking away with hundreds of dollars of booze was really something.

And of course, Lloyd’s take on it is priceless, showing a series of clips of Morris being imperious as a Watchtower official. We can’t wait to see if the governing body will have something to say about it.

Lloyd explains to us why what we’re seeing in this video should be pretty shocking to Jehovah’s Witnesses:

Apart from being a member of the Governing Body, Tony is a bethelite. As such, he is a member of the Worldwide Order of Special Full-Time Servants of Jehovah’s Witnesses, for which he took a vow of poverty when joining. Members of the order typically only make about $150 per month as a stipend, but here he is splashing nearly a grand on 12 bottles of booze. Then there’s the small matter of where this money has come from — most likely dedicated funds (unless he’s breaking the moonlighting rules) — which brings us to this video, produced by Tony and his cronies, which persuades kids to go without their ice cream money to donate to their case. And that’s before we even talk about the fact that alcoholism is a disfellowshipping offense for JWs.


 
lol...Jesus drank wine...even turned water into wine...there is nothing wrong with enjoying a good drink in leisure time...even on a Sunday morning if your meeting is not scheduled for that time of day one is allowed to purchase alcohol...our meetings are held at all different times of the day and week, depending on the congregation...moderation is the key...

"Let the older men be moderate in habits, serious, sound in mind, healthy in faith, in love, in endurance." Titus 2:2
 
lol...Jesus drank wine...even turned water into wine...there is nothing wrong with enjoying a good drink in leisure time...even on a Sunday morning if your meeting is not scheduled for that time of day...our meetings are held at all different times of the day and week, depending on the congregation...moderation is the key...

"Let the older men be moderate in habits, serious, sound in mind, healthy in faith, in love, in endurance." Titus 2:2

Elvira, he is a hypocrite.

And a liar.
And a drunk.

Not a very good governing body member.....where did he get the money?
The cult members should be angry...
 
Elvira, he is a hypocrite.

And a liar.
And a drunk.

Not a very good governing body member.....where did he get the money?
The cult members should be angry...

:roll:
 
JWs can drink, so I dont see what the problem is.
 
JWs can drink, so I dont see what the problem is.

Watch the video, the guy is a hypocrite, and has taken a vow of poverty and gets paid 150 a month. Yet he is buying 800 bucks worth of whiskey on a sunday morning.

There are worse sins, and the JW church has a lot of scandals, its nice to see that there are journalists focusing on them.

There is this recent story about sexual abuse in the church, and cover ups.

The Secret Jehovah’s Witness Database of Child Molesters - The Atlantic
 
Watch the video, the guy is a hypocrite, and has taken a vow of poverty and gets paid 150 a month. Yet he is buying 800 bucks worth of whiskey on a sunday morning.

There are worse sins, and the JW church has a lot of scandals, its nice to see that there are journalists focusing on them.

I watched it...nothing hypocritical about him...there is no vow of poverty for pete's sake...you have us mixed up with another group...lol...the video is a joke...
 
JWs can drink, so I dont see what the problem is.

Exactly...I had me a good old Rock and Rye on the rocks last night...it was good, too...:2razz:
 
That is small potatoes compared to the child abuse scandal in Belgium.
 
Elvira, he is a hypocrite.

And a liar.
And a drunk.

Not a very good governing body member.....where did he get the money?
The cult members should be angry...

They don't get angry about child abuse so why would a drunk bother them?
 
Elvira, he is a hypocrite.

And a liar.
And a drunk.

Not a very good governing body member.....where did he get the money?
The cult members should be angry...

No, he's a JW, and therefore everything he does is 100% correct, and can rewrite the rules as he sees fit. Duh! ;)

(As an aside, drinking is not a sin...there are some great verses in the Bible about it, actually, my favorite being the story of turning water into wine. The part that isn't obvious is that the party was already hopping, and people were already hammered, as evidenced by John 2:10: "and said, “Everyone brings out the choice wine first and then the cheaper wine after the guests have had too much to drink; but you have saved the best till now.”")

:mrgreen:
 
No, he's a JW, and therefore everything he does is 100% correct, and can rewrite the rules as he sees fit. Duh! ;)

(As an aside, drinking is not a sin...there are some great verses in the Bible about it, actually, my favorite being the story of turning water into wine. The part that isn't obvious is that the party was already hopping, and people were already hammered, as evidenced by John 2:10: "and said, “Everyone brings out the choice wine first and then the cheaper wine after the guests have had too much to drink; but you have saved the best till now.”")

:mrgreen:

On a side note, I always found it a tad peculiar that the author of John refused to name the mother of Jesus, completely avoids the "virgin birth" narrative, and instead makes Jesus the son of Joseph without qualification.


OM
 
On a side note, I always found it a tad peculiar that the author of John refused to name the mother of Jesus, completely avoids the "virgin birth" narrative, and instead makes Jesus the son of Joseph without qualification.


OM

Yes, strange... The author would not make a very good Catholic. :)
 
On a side note, I always found it a tad peculiar that the author of John refused to name the mother of Jesus, completely avoids the "virgin birth" narrative, and instead makes Jesus the son of Joseph without qualification.
OM

Of course this is the same John who identified Jesus as God incarnate, and who was raised from the dead.
 
Of course this is the same John who identified Jesus as God incarnate, and who was raised from the dead.

...while denying it required a virgin birth, and whose intact bloodline runs thru Joseph.


OM
 
On a side note, I always found it a tad peculiar that the author of John refused to name the mother of Jesus, completely avoids the "virgin birth" narrative, and instead makes Jesus the son of Joseph without qualification.


OM

It makes perfect sense to me.
 
...while denying it required a virgin birth, and whose intact bloodline runs thru Joseph.


OM

There's no denial of the virgin birth in John.

You need a lot of help with your theology. No wonder it's such a mess.
 
There's no denial of the virgin birth in John.

You need a lot of help with your theology. No wonder it's such a mess.

Same with the Gospel of Mark, that author completely bypassed the "virgin birth" narrative as well.


OM
 
Perhaps the mote the guy in the video should be concerned about is in his own eye. Dood apparently drinks alcohol. JWs apparently are good to go to consume all manner of spirits. Beyond that...this is just the person in the video demonstrating his petty religious bigotry.
 
All the twisting and shouting in the world does not/will not change the facts...

Since Jesus was not the natural son of Joseph but was the Son of God, Luke’s genealogy of Jesus would prove that he was, by human birth, a son of David through his natural mother Mary. Regarding the genealogies of Jesus given by Matthew and by Luke, Frederic Louis Godet wrote: “This study of the text in detail leads us in this way to admit​—1. That the genealogical register of Luke is that of Heli, the grandfather of Jesus; 2. That, this affiliation of Jesus by Heli being expressly opposed to His affiliation by Joseph, the document which he has preserved for us can be nothing else in his view than the genealogy of Jesus through Mary. But why does not Luke name Mary, and why pass immediately from Jesus to His grandfather? Ancient sentiment did not comport with the mention of the mother as the genealogical link. Among the Greeks a man was the son of his father, not of his mother; and among the Jews the adage was: ‘Genus matris non vocatur genus [“The descendant of the mother is not called (her) descendant”]’ (‘Baba bathra,’ 110, a).”​—Commentary on Luke, 1981, p. 129.

We may conclude, therefore, that the two lists of Matthew and Luke fuse together the two truths, namely, (1) that Jesus was actually the Son of God and the natural heir to the Kingdom by miraculous birth through the virgin girl Mary, of David’s line, and (2) that Jesus was also the legal heir in the male line of descent from David and Solomon through his adoptive father Joseph. (Lu 1:32, 35; Ro 1:1-4) If there was any accusation made by hostile Jews that Jesus’ birth was illegitimate, the fact that Joseph, aware of the circumstances, married Mary and gave her the protection of his good name and royal lineage refutes such slander.

Genealogy of Jesus Christ — Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY
 
Perhaps the mote the guy in the video should be concerned about is in his own eye. Dood apparently drinks alcohol. JWs apparently are good to go to consume all manner of spirits. Beyond that...this is just the person in the video demonstrating his petty religious bigotry.

He has a vow of poverty and makes $150 a month, but had no problem buying $800 of hootch.

The guy in the video is someone who got out of the cult and informs about its latest doings.
 
He has a vow of poverty and makes $150 a month, but had no problem buying $800 of hootch.
And you have no idea if he is buying that for himself, for a group, a gathering, an activity, or whatever. The fact is you literally know nothing about the situation...nor do you have any connection TO the situation...yet you rushed to pronounce a judgement of the man based on nothing but your own bigotry and hatred.
 
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