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    Methodist church rejects gay clergy and marriage.

    I love how in this article there is a lot of talk about who’s attending Sunday services and not any about the Bible. Unrepentant homosexuality is a sin, you will be condemned for it. A church that is willing to tell people not to repent and follow God’s teaching is like a Doctor that tells you not to change your diet when you are very overweight.

    It is very concerning that had it not been for the Black African delegates they might’ve opened the door to changing the policy. If you’re in a Methodist congregation in the US you need to consider leaving, a church that tells you unbiblical things is bad for your spiritual health. This should never have even been discussed because the Bible clearly does not allow for gay marriage and a pastor should not be living an unrepentant sinful lifestyle.

    Traditionalists prevail in United Methodist Church sexuality conversation | News | themountaineer.com
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    Re: Methodist church rejects gay clergy and marriage.

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    I love how in this article there is a lot of talk about who’s attending Sunday services and not any about the Bible. Unrepentant homosexuality is a sin, you will be condemned for it. A church that is willing to tell people not to repent and follow God’s teaching is like a Doctor that tells you not to change your diet when you are very overweight.

    It is very concerning that had it not been for the Black African delegates they might’ve opened the door to changing the policy. If you’re in a Methodist congregation in the US you need to consider leaving, a church that tells you unbiblical things is bad for your spiritual health. This should never have even been discussed because the Bible clearly does not allow for gay marriage and a pastor should not be living an unrepentant sinful lifestyle.

    Traditionalists prevail in United Methodist Church sexuality conversation | News | themountaineer.com
    hey god do you mind homosexulity?

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    nope god dosent care


    but maybe people should just abandon their faith if it contains evil rather then trying to change it since the faith is false (or if an evil god exists) then its in service to an evil god

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    Re: Methodist church rejects gay clergy and marriage.

    It is like expecting the KKK to start allowing black members.
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    Re: Methodist church rejects gay clergy and marriage.

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    hey god do you mind homosexulity?

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    nope god dosent care


    but maybe people should just abandon their faith if it contains evil rather then trying to change it since the faith is false (or if an evil god exists) then its in service to an evil god
    Well except that god explicitly condemns homosexuality in the bible.

    There is nothing evil about understanding that disordered behavior is bad for society. It took not even a year before it went from "we just want to be left alone" to "you must affirm us or we'll have the government shut you down" rational people wouldn't complain to government boards over something like Jack Phillips.
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    Re: Methodist church rejects gay clergy and marriage.

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    Well except that god explicitly condemns homosexuality in the bible.

    There is nothing evil about understanding that disordered behavior is bad for society. It took not even a year before it went from "we just want to be left alone" to "you must affirm us or we'll have the government shut you down" rational people wouldn't complain to government boards over something like Jack Phillips.
    god are those bits of the bible from you are any of the bible verses from you?

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    nope not from god

    people should just abandon their faith if it contains evil rather then trying to change it since the faith is false (or if an evil god exists) then its in service to an evil god

    sounds like believing in a false god is disordered behavior im not sure its evil but it would be a waist of time and energy at best


    pointless discrimination seems like something rational people would oppose treating others badly increases the chance you will be treated badly

    your not affirming christianity by serving christians as part of the general public no excuse to deny service to christians or gay people or people of other races

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    Re: Methodist church rejects gay clergy and marriage.

    Good for them...if you're gonna call yourself a Christian, then act like one...
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    Re: Methodist church rejects gay clergy and marriage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvira View Post
    Good for them...if you're gonna call yourself a Christian, then act like one...
    do unto others as you would have them do unto you?

    give what is asked of you?

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    Re: Methodist church rejects gay clergy and marriage.

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    do unto others as you would have them do unto you?

    give what is asked of you?
    If I was disordered I would hope my family would love me enough to tell me no and not accept my disorder for my own protection.

    I expect my family in Christ to tell me and rebuke me if I am committing mortal sin that could compromise my eternal soul
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    Re: Methodist church rejects gay clergy and marriage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skeptic Bob View Post
    It is like expecting the KKK to start allowing black members.
    No it’s not.

    There’s nothing wrong with homosexuals attending church, and worshipping God the father and abstaining from sin.

    I for example used to be addicted to porn and frequently... well engaged myself. I no longer engage in these behaviors because they’re sinful and damage both my relationship with God who wants what’s best for me and with society. So it’s essential that people who feel compulsion to sinful behavior come and learn their behavior is wrong and resolve to cease committing it.
    The Church cannot lead people to God if they reject his teachings. If the Church had simply endorsed my behaviors when I spiritually dead I would never have corrected them

    The KKK does not exist to lead all of God’s creation to his kingdom, in fact they reject many biblical teachings. The Church does not exclude, the KKK excludes. The Church cares for the souls of the people who worship, the KKK exists to hurt other people. Not the same things
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    Re: Methodist church rejects gay clergy and marriage.

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    I love how in this article there is a lot of talk about who’s attending Sunday services and not any about the Bible. Unrepentant homosexuality is a sin, you will be condemned for it. A church that is willing to tell people not to repent and follow God’s teaching is like a Doctor that tells you not to change your diet when you are very overweight.

    It is very concerning that had it not been for the Black African delegates they might’ve opened the door to changing the policy. If you’re in a Methodist congregation in the US you need to consider leaving, a church that tells you unbiblical things is bad for your spiritual health. This should never have even been discussed because the Bible clearly does not allow for gay marriage and a pastor should not be living an unrepentant sinful lifestyle.

    Traditionalists prevail in United Methodist Church sexuality conversation | News | themountaineer.com
    Yes...church is supposed to be more than just a social club based on shifting ideologies of the time but more on the actual Bible. If the arguments made are not on biblical principle themselves then there is an issue. That said, I find a certain aspect of this interesting and ironic. The progressives spend their days talking about the evils that is the U.S. and how pretty much all the other places of the world are just as good or better yet it was the churches in Africa that kept the status quo position on LGBTQ in the church....how's that going to fit into the intersectional equation?
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