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Methodist church rejects gay clergy and marriage.

Elvira said:
Show me in the Christian Greek Scriptures where it tells a Christian to kill a witch, or anyone else for that matter...including one's enemies...quite the contrary...Jesus said to love your enemies...to pray for them...so your opinion is wrong...
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Jesus told a parable whose ending line was
luke 27:10 said:
But those my enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring here, and slay them before me.
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Somerville said:
Is marriage a "Church issue"?

Not all Methodists are in favour of this recent vote by the Assembly. I personally know two Methodist ministers and have family members and friends in the church, all of whom are against the vote. And they are not the only Methodists who supprt gay marriage.

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Yeah, apostates are perfectly fine with condoning homosexuality despite clear biblical teaching against it.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Yeah, apostates are perfectly fine with condoning homosexuality despite clear biblical teaching against it.
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hey god do you care if people are gay?


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no reply those bits of the bible are probably false along with the rest of it

just to be sure


hey god is any of the bible from you?

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nope god is not backing the bible
 
Elvira said:
Show me in the Christian Greek Scriptures where it tells a Christian to kill a witch, or anyone else for that matter...including one's enemies...quite the contrary...Jesus said to love your enemies...to pray for them...so your opinion is wrong...
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The King James Version (KJV) of Exod 22:18, "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live, " has been used by some contemporary ordinary Akan Christians in Ghana to justify praying for the death and destruction of witches and wizards.
"Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" (Exod 22:18) and contemporary ...
"Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" (Exod 22:18) and contemporary Akan Christian belief and practice: A translational and hermeneutical problem
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How is that?

One of the most notorious and influential pastors is Helen Ukpabio of Liberty Gospel Church. Her 1999 film, the widely distributed, "End of the Wicked" has been attacked by child rights groups for its depictions of Satan possessing children.
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Children abused, killed as witches in Nigeria - CNN.com

Lots of children are killed in the name of Christ.

Good stuff this religion thing.
 
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Somerville said:
Is marriage a "Church issue"?

Not all Methodists are in favour of this recent vote by the Assembly. I personally know two Methodist ministers and have family members and friends in the church, all of whom are against the vote. And they are not the only Methodists who supprt gay marriage.

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You do know that marriage is a sacrament of the Church, or at the very least, a vocation?

In any case, if you're not a Christian or a Methodist it's none of your business.
 
PoS said:
Marriage is a secular and legal issue, not a religious one.
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Not when a couple wishes to marry in the church.
 
I would say "there's still hope" for the Wesleyans, but I think saying "at least all is not lost" would be more apropos...
 
Logicman said:
Baloney. You're still citing the OLD TESTAMENT. You live in the OT and ignore the New Covenant scripture that says, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

Nowhere in the NT do we see stoning approved by Jesus.
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Already talked about this. In the oldest manuscripts, the phrase isn't there. In fact, the pericope of the adulteress isn't found in any text until the 6th century.
 
Logicman said:
Baloney. You're still citing the OLD TESTAMENT. You live in the OT and ignore the New Covenant scripture that says, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

Nowhere in the NT do we see stoning approved by Jesus.
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He who is without sin would be a child.

That is when you are stoning to death somebody for say, being the victim of rape, thus sex outside marriage, the first stone should be thrown by a child so that the blame for it can be passed to somebody who has no power. Nice get out of guilt thing there.

JC was very clear all the old rules were in place.
 
Somerville said:
Already talked about this. In the oldest manuscripts, the phrase isn't there. In fact, the pericope of the adulteress isn't found in any text until the 6th century.
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Sorry to disappoint you but the phrase was undoubtedly common in the oral traditions of Christianity from the beginning.
 
Tim the plumber said:
He who is without sin would be a child.

That is when you are stoning to death somebody for say, being the victim of rape, thus sex outside marriage, the first stone should be thrown by a child so that the blame for it can be passed to somebody who has no power. Nice get out of guilt thing there.

JC was very clear all the old rules were in place.
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Nope. And you can't find a Christian stoning anyone in the New Testament.

No doubt you want to see Christians stoning people to prop up your sophomoric, twisted view of Christianity, but it's not happening.
 
Logicman said:
Nope. And you can't find a Christian stoning anyone in the New Testament.

No doubt you want to see Christians stoning people to prop up your sophomoric, twisted view of Christianity, but it's not happening.
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A story of an estimated 15,000 children in Africa's Niger Delta being denounced by Christian pastors as witches and wizards and then killed, tortured or abandoned by their own families.
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Return to Africa's Witch Children - Top Documentary Films

Do your read any other people's posts at all?
 
Logicman said:
Sorry to disappoint you but the phrase was undoubtedly common in the oral traditions of Christianity from the beginning.
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I bet you can't show that your statement is true.
 
PoS said:
Back to ad homs again. What a surprise. :roll:


That part is just meaningless ceremony.
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Where I live the meaningful part occurs in the town hall with no mention of any god.
 
zyzygy said:
Where I live the meaningful part occurs in the town hall with no mention of any god.
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Where I live, the most meaningful part of that occurs at home, in the bedroom, with multiple mentions of god, in a row. "Oh god, oh god, oh god"
 
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