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Is the Bible Accurate? — with Dan Wallace

zyzygy said:
The Physics of Death

The Physics of Death

WATCH: This Is Exactly What Happens When You Die
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I checked that out, but it didn't appear to go into the specifics of how the electrical energy is displaced; just mentions very briefly how the nervous system fails upon death. But I'm going to go with displacement into the immediate environment. I would like to learn how that energy subsequently effects the surrounding environment. Perhaps I'm overthinking.


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Omega Man said:
Not according to the First Law of Thermodynamics.


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And who declared that this is a "law"? Humans, who do not have a good record of being correct.
 
Omega Man said:
I checked that out, but it didn't appear to go into the specifics of how the electrical energy is displaced; just mentions very briefly how the nervous system fails upon death. But I'm going to go with displacement into the immediate environment. I would like to learn how that energy subsequently effects the surrounding environment. Perhaps I'm overthinking.


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In biological systems , energy is both converted and conserved.
 
Arjay81 said:
And who declared that this is a "law"? Humans, who do not have a good record of being correct.
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Same life forms who spend inordinate amounts of their lives arguing about nothing on the internet, I suppose.


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Elvira said:
It does not matter the date of the translation as long as the translation is taken from the original Hebrew and Greek languages...that is what makes the translation most accurate...
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The transliteration of those texts is what controls accuracy.
 
Omega Man said:
I checked that out, but it didn't appear to go into the specifics of how the electrical energy is displaced; just mentions very briefly how the nervous system fails upon death. But I'm going to go with displacement into the immediate environment. I would like to learn how that energy subsequently effects the surrounding environment. Perhaps I'm overthinking.


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It won't be uppermost on my mind when I fall off the perch.
 
Omega Man said:
Hmmmm, good point. Perhaps the difference between physiological chemistry vs. physical chemistry? You suggest then that biological energy can be destroyed? Man, if I was 30 years younger this is probably one of the disciplines I would have gravitated to.


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The only difference is that biochemical reactions use organic chemistry , which is heavy on carbon reactions. But, that is pretty much an artificial labeling, because chemistry is chemistry.
 
Is there anything in the Bible that is historically verified ?
 
Atheist 2020 said:
We have the King James Bible and we have the English speaking Catholic -- they are so different with each other. One has to be correct, and witch one is correct.
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Bibles and manuscripts are not the same things. Bibles are made using manuscripts. A bible's accuracy is measured against the manuscript. You can compare any 2 bibles against each other by testing how accurate they each are to the manuscript they were both made from and see which bible is more faithful to the manuscript.
 
Rich2018 said:
Is there anything in the Bible that is historically verified ?
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I'm pretty sure the Earth existed back then. So that's one thing.
 
pinqy said:
You're assuming that the original manuscripts are accurate.
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Nope. This is about how accurate bibles are to manuscripts, not how accurate manuscripts are to fact. Even if the manuscripts are 100% bogus, a bible made from it can still be accurate.

Faithfull translations of Harry Potter do not mean Harry Potter actually existed.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
There is no accuracy when consider the supernatural claims of the bible. No amount of scholarship will ever make them 'credible'.
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You say that but we proved how the parting of the sea occurred.
 
Wayne Jr said:
Bibles and manuscripts are not the same things. Bibles are made using manuscripts. A bible's accuracy is measured against the manuscript. You can compare any 2 bibles against each other by testing how accurate they each are to the manuscript they were both made from and see which bible is more faithful to the manuscript.
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Get the King James Bible and the English speaking bible for Catholics -- they cannot be from the same manuscripts.
 
Wayne Jr said:
I'm pretty sure the Earth existed back then. So that's one thing.
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Nope, the Earth existed from around 3.5 billion years ago...not about 6,000 years ago.


Also the Earth was basically spherical in shape and revolved round the sun...not flat with the sun revoling around it.



We must be thinking of two different "Earths".
 
Will a Loving God Punish People Forever in Hell?

Millions believe that God is loving and merciful, but also that He has condemned millions to suffer torment for all eternity. Is something wrong with this picture, or is the problem a distorted belief about hell?
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Excellent example of how not only mistranslations are a problem, but non-Christians, and Christians as well, fundamentally misunderstanding what was being talked about in rather large swathes of the entire Biblical text as a whole.

From the original languages in which the Bible was written, one Hebrew word and three Greek words are translated “hell” in our English-language Bibles. The four words convey three different meanings.
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The Hebrew word sheol, used in the Old Testament, has the same meaning as hades, one of the three Greek words translated “hell” in the New Testament.
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The Anchor Bible Dictionary explains the meaning of both words: “The Greek word Hades…is sometimes, but misleadingly, translated ‘hell’ in English versions of the New Testament. It refers to the place of the dead…The old Hebrew concept of the place of the dead, most often called Sheol…is usually translated as Hades , and the Greek term was naturally and commonly used by Jews writing in Greek” (1992, Vol. 3, p. 14, “Hades, Hell”).
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Many scriptures that use the term hell in the King James Version are simply talking about the grave, the place where everyone, whether good or evil, goes at death. The Hebrew word sheol is used in the Old Testament 65 times. In the King James Version it is translated “grave” 31 times, “hell” 31 times and “pit”—a hole in the ground—three times.
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The Greek word hades is used 11 times in the New Testament. In the King James translation, in all instances but one the term hades is translated “hell.” The one exception is 1 Corinthians 15:55, where it is translated “grave.” In the New King James Version, the translators avoided misconceptions by simply using the original Greek word hades in all 11 instances.
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In Mark 9:47-48, for example, Jesus specifically refers to Gehenna and what took place there. But without a proper historical background, many people draw erroneous conclusions as to what He said.

Notice His words: “It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye, rather than having two eyes, to be cast into hell [ gehenna ] fire—where ‘their worm does not die and the fire is not quenched.’” Any inhabitant of Jerusalem would have immediately understood what Jesus meant, since Gehenna—the Valley of Hinnom—was just outside the city walls to the south.
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The thread title asks 'Is the bible Accurate'

To which I say: It must be. It seems to say whatever people want it to say.

But this thread is not about the accuracy of the bible, it seems to be about the accuracy of bible translations.
 
Rich2018 said:
Nope, the Earth existed from around 3.5 billion years ago...not about 6,000 years ago.


Also the Earth was basically spherical in shape and revolved round the sun...not flat with the sun revoling around it.



We must be thinking of two different "Earths".
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Nope?

I think it existed 3.5 billion years ago and I also think it existed 6000 years ago. I even think it existed yesterday.
 
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