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    Re: To hell with catholic cardinals, now it is gays who are to blame for their child rape issue

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    So you cant refute any of my facts?

    That would be more honest...in a discussion forum ...than pretending it's not accurate with zero ability to demonstrate why.

    You do realize everyone can see your failure to do so?
    All of your points were opinions, weakly argued, and devoid of an actual understanding of how human beings respond to incentives.
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    Re: To hell with catholic cardinals, now it is gays who are to blame for their child rape issue

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    Of course there are positive things regarding abortion, even if it's sad. Just like getting a divorce can be a sad and difficult decision, it's still the right thing for a family's future.

    --There's nothing responsible about having a kid you cant afford and expecting tax payers to take up that burden with public assistance.

    --There's nothing responsible about having a kid you arent emotionally prepared to have and may abuse or neglect.


    There’s no such thing. This is a feminazi lie. My great grandmother had my grandfather at 19, my grandmother had my mother at 20, my mom had me at 23. Women are made to have children young. Emotional preparation are weasel words.

    --There's nothing responsible about having a kid if you know you wont stop drinking, smoking, doing drugs, etc that will damage the unborn.
    Then the solution is to end those behaviors.
    --There's nothing responsible about remaining pregnant and dropping out of high school or college or missing work and not fulfilling your potential in society.
    You do not need to drop out of school due to pregnancy nor college. In fact there’s more options and flexibility then ever before. “Fulfilling your potential to society” is a non specific emotional term that is meaningless. A handful of girls in my high school got pregnant and none of them didn’t graduate. This is a myth.
    --There's nothing responsible about having a kid and giving it up for adoption when there are already over 100,000 kids in America waiting to be adopted. It means one less waiting will find a home.
    Babies adopt out fast, if you give a baby up for adoption he/she will be adopted. The jam in the foster system is teenagers.
    And even if this were true, it doesn’t justify murder. I mean we put down dogs that cannot be adopted, so your philsophy is immoral and dehumanizing.

    Now, can you please list how abortion negatively affects society? To prove your own claim (it's a discussion).
    You mean other then the million deaths every year?
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    Re: To hell with catholic cardinals, now it is gays who are to blame for their child rape issue

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    All of your points were opinions, weakly argued, and devoid of an actual understanding of how human beings respond to incentives.
    LOL As is yours only your opinion.

    However you are wrong about mine not being well-argued...Try again anytime: I have it all in OneNote with the linked souces, and it stands the test of time
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    Re: To hell with catholic cardinals, now it is gays who are to blame for their child rape issue

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    There’s no such thing. This is a feminazi lie. My great grandmother had my grandfather at 19, my grandmother had my mother at 20, my mom had me at 23. Women are made to have children young. Emotional preparation are weasel words.
    Your personal family is your ONLY basis for opinion?

    Cool, then mine is having been involved in the foster care system (thru my church and later, my family) for decades.

    On a broader scale, mine is seeing the data on poor parenting, the effects of growing up in a socio-economically challenged environment, and the results on society.

    Mine trumps your little anecdote by light years.
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    Re: To hell with catholic cardinals, now it is gays who are to blame for their child rape issue

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    Then the solution is to end those behaviors.
    Another joke?

    Wait, if you're serious, I'll just notify all the rehab centers and counselors and AA meetings in America and let them know!

    Food for thought: sometimes, you should consider not answering at all if the answer you scrape up is going to demonstrate a clear lack of mental limitations.
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    Re: To hell with catholic cardinals, now it is gays who are to blame for their child rape issue

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    You do not need to drop out of school due to pregnancy nor college. In fact there’s more options and flexibility then ever before. “Fulfilling your potential to society” is a non specific emotional term that is meaningless. A handful of girls in my high school got pregnant and none of them didn’t graduate. This is a myth.
    Nobody said anyone 'needed' to. That's why abortion is a personal choice. You dont get to make that choice for other people, YOU dont know what is best for them, their capabilities, their other obligations and commitments, the other dependents they already have, etc.

    It's called self-determination. Why is the unborn more entitled to that than a woman, since you are so willing to take it from women and give it to the unborn? Please answer.


    You, nor anyone else, has the right to tell a woman she must make those sacrifices to her life and health and future against her will. And fortunately, our Constitution protects women from having to 'obey' your personal repressive morality.
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    Re: To hell with catholic cardinals, now it is gays who are to blame for their child rape issue

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    Babies adopt out fast, if you give a baby up for adoption he/she will be adopted. The jam in the foster system is teenagers.
    And even if this were true, it doesn’t justify murder. I mean we put down dogs that cannot be adopted, so your philsophy is immoral and dehumanizing.
    So you have completely lost the ability to connect the dots? This just boggles the mind:

    Lursa: There are over 100,000 kids waiting to be adopted in the US today

    EMN: Babies adopt out fast, if you give a baby up for adoption he/she will be adopted.

    Funny...those 100,000 started out as newborns and most entered the system as infants. I wasnt writing about foster kids, there are more than 400,000 of those in America.

    And I also pointed out WHY adding MORE (I'm adding emphasis with caps since I dont know any simpler words to try and explain this) newborns actively HARMS those already waiting: because when a new infant is added to that pool of kids waiting...it means (please try really hard here to understand): one of those kids waiting and hoping for a family WONT get one.

    So we have aware, suffering kids harmed for no good reason except that you believe women should add more unwanted, unaffordable kids to the planet? Again: more rational thinking supports not doing so unnecessarily.
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    Re: To hell with catholic cardinals, now it is gays who are to blame for their child rape issue

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post

    You mean other then the million deaths every year?
    Yes, please be very clear: how did the loss of those 600,000 unborn a year (the more accurate #) harm society. Please be specific.

    The question was: please list the negative effects of abortion on society (for the rest of our viewing audience )
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    Re: To hell with catholic cardinals, now it is gays who are to blame for their child rape issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Another joke?

    Wait, if you're serious, I'll just notify all the rehab centers and counselors and AA meetings in America and let them know!

    Food for thought: sometimes, you should consider not answering at all if the answer you scrape up is going to demonstrate a clear lack of mental limitations.
    I simply do not care, your mental health or addictions are only a defense to murder insofar as diminished capacity and not justification
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    Re: To hell with catholic cardinals, now it is gays who are to blame for their child rape issue

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    I simply do not care, your mental health or addictions are only a defense to murder insofar as diminished capacity and not justification
    So then you feel that it's better to produce, ***unnecessarily***more children with fetal alcohol syndrome, severe physical and mental defects from drug use, etc? Kids that are not generally adoptable to begin with?

    Yes, again, I've see it personally, for decades. All those kids in foster care...most were the result of what I just described. Some so severely defective that they were permanently mental infants, blind, deaf, no motor skills, so had to be changed and fed all day, like infants. With no hope of anything more. And once too big for their foster families to pick up...sent to state facilities to be stored like cordwood, no longer to know a loving touch.

    I saw this all the time since my family was close friends with foster families at church.

    My parents started taking in special needs infants when I left for college. They had many special needs infants to foster and they adopted 2 of my sisters who have many mental and physical challenges. As do their other 2 sisters and brother. All from a drug-abusing whore who eventually died of AIDS.

    You demonstrate a very common religious adherence....to life at all costs. (After all, if they survive, then more $$$ in the collection plate!)

    The more compassionate try to balance a heartbeat with quality of life.

    There are many lessons the fundamentalist religious (and I use 'fundamentalist' to mean people that follow blindly) could learn from the more broadly educated, open-minded, moral , and compassionate.
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    What does 'equality for women' have to do with abortion?
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    All I need to know when I vote is that the candidate has an r after their name.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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