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[W:220,1256]***Trinitarianism = Polytheism

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PoS said:
We're actually doing some debates here, and youre not. Do you actually have anything to contribute at all or not?
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Yeah...just not with you, which seems to have you rather flummoxed.

Pro tip: If you don't want people to respond to you, don't quote them. By now you must know that if you're going to quote me, I'm going to respond. If you don't like that, stop hitting reply. Very easy...even for you.

Or is it? :lol:
 
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OlNate said:
Yeah...just not with you, which seems to have you rather flummoxed.

Pro tip: If you don't want people to respond to you, don't quote them. By now you must know that if you're going to quote me, I'm going to respond. If you don't like that, stop hitting reply. Very easy...even for you.

Or is it? :lol:
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I'll quote you so the mods can see what youre up to. And since you seem to think this is the basement, well, let's see what happens.
 
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PoS said:
We're actually doing some debates here, and youre not. Do you actually have anything to contribute at all or not?
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Obviously not.
 
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PoS said:
I'll quote you so the mods can see what youre up to. And since you seem to think this is the basement, well, let's see what happens.
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:lamo Bait and report? Mmmm… Well, that's one way to remove opposition, I guess. ;)
 
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PoS said:
I'll quote you so the mods can see what youre up to. And since you seem to think this is the basement, well, let's see what happens.
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Now, you see why I don't bother with him...let him rattle on to himself...;)
 
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OlNate said:
:lamo Bait and report? Mmmm… Well, that's one way to remove opposition, I guess. ;)
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Bait? If you even bothered to look at your posts here, you just came in and began attacking anyone who disagreed with you, so according to the rules, this is the best way to deal with the likes of you.
 
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PoS said:
Bait? If you even bothered to look at your posts here, you just came in and began attacking anyone who disagreed with you, so according to the rules, this is the best way to deal with the likes of you.
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lol...if calling you out on your abusive attitude towards Christians as a means to refute your intentionally inflammatory thread gets me in trouble, then this isn't the place for me anyway. People in this thread have pointed out to you that I have provided you with refutations. I'm sorry if you don't understand...

One more time, if you don't want to talk to me, or don't like my style of communication, or the content of my arguments, or the color of my socks, stop hitting reply. Very basic.

In the meantime, I welcome scrutiny. :shrug:
 
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OlNate said:
lol...if calling you out on your abusive attitude towards Christians as a means to refute your intentionally inflammatory thread gets me in trouble, then this isn't the place for me anyway. People in this thread have pointed out to you that I have provided you with refutations. I'm sorry if you don't understand...

One more time, if you don't want to talk to me, or don't like my style of communication, or the content of my arguments, or the color of my socks, stop hitting reply. Very basic.

In the meantime, I welcome scrutiny. :shrug:
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Youre lying again. Show me where I am abusing Christians. If you keep trolling me and making up lies, then I will call you out.
 
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PoS said:
Youre lying again. Show me where I am abusing Christians. If you keep trolling me and making up lies, then I will call you out.
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Weird follow up to just threatening to sick the mods on me....you immediately invite me to break the rules, followed up by ANOTHER threat? *tsk*

Tell you what. If you really want to explore your feelings about Christians with me, let me get through all the things I have to do today that are more important, and I will find us an appropriate place to discuss. You have my word. One way or another we should probably figure this out. Would you be willing to do so privately, or do you need an audience...? I'm good either way. :)
 
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OlNate said:
Weird follow up to just threatening to sick the mods on me....you immediately invite me to break the rules, followed up by ANOTHER threat? *tsk*

Tell you what. If you really want to explore your feelings about Christians with me, let me get through all the things I have to do today that are more important, and I will find us an appropriate place to discuss. You have my word. One way or another we should probably figure this out. Would you be willing to do so privately, or do you need an audience...? I'm good either way. :)
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LOL saying I will call you out is a threat? Wow, do your lies ever stop?

And no, you publicly accused me of being abusive towards Christians, so it will get discussed out here. State your case or retract what you said.
 
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PoS said:
LOL saying I will call you out is a threat? Wow, do your lies ever stop?

And no, you publicly accused me of being abusive towards Christians, so it will get discussed out here. State your case or retract what you said.
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lol...I'll do neither, given your defaulting to getting moderators involved. Sorry, that was a misstep. Now I have to be extra careful. Which you forced upon me. So now I get to pick where I feel safe to do it. You're basically asking me to put together a call out thread. Can't do that up here, as you well know.

Don't worry, I'll do it publicly, and I'm sure all your friends will show up. :) I mean, if anyone is really interested in how you are abusive to Christians, all they need to do is look at your posts in this sub forum, though. But since you're asking, I'll throw together a nice sampling for you. Where I won't get in trouble. Which you threatened me with.

But hey, look how off topic we've gotten. I'd like to return to the subject at hand. Please stop derailing your own thread, PoS. :)
 
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PoS said:
Bait? If you even bothered to look at your posts here, you just came in and began attacking anyone who disagreed with you, so according to the rules, this is the best way to deal with the likes of you.
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And to think he has the audacity to come in accusing others of doing the attacking...ya can't make this stuff up...lol...
 
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OlNate said:
lol...I'll do neither, given your defaulting to getting moderators involved. Sorry, that was a misstep. Now I have to be extra careful. Which you forced upon me. So now I get to pick where I feel safe to do it. You're basically asking me to put together a call out thread. Can't do that up here, as you well know.

Don't worry, I'll do it publicly, and I'm sure all your friends will show up. :) I mean, if anyone is really interested in how you are abusive to Christians, all they need to do is look at your posts in this sub forum, though. But since you're asking, I'll throw together a nice sampling for you. Where I won't get in trouble. Which you threatened me with.

But hey, look how off topic we've gotten. I'd like to return to the subject at hand. Please stop derailing your own thread, PoS. :)
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Again you are lying. I have not threatened you with anything. If you get called out on your behavior then its because you made your own bed, so please do not hoist the blame on me. I cant control what you post, only you can.

And Im still waiting for proof of your accusations.
 
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PoS said:
Again you are lying. I have not threatened you with anything. If you get called out on your behavior then its because you made your own bed, so please do not hoist the blame on me. I cant control what you post, only you can.

And Im still waiting for proof of your accusations.
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Seems appropriate right about now...:2razz:

 
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PoS said:
Again you are lying. I have not threatened you with anything. If you get called out on your behavior then its because you made your own bed, so please do not hoist the blame on me. I cant control what you post, only you can.

And Im still waiting for proof of your accusations.
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PoS, I've already answered you on that subject, and asked nicely if we could return to the topic at hand. If you are unable to do that, I'm afraid I'll simply have to assume you have nothing further to say on it, and continue talking with other people in this thread. If I'm honest, I do not feel comfortable talking to you when you're so obviously upset, and feel like maybe you could use a break before continuing. The threats and insults make good conversation difficult.

Thank you for understanding. I look forward to continuing our discussion when you've calmed down. :)
 
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<alt>doxygen said:
Ah, the ultimate defense for those who have no logical explanation to offer. And yet you will still try to use logic as a means of arguing your case.
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:shock:

I was repeating what the Bible says.


1 Cor 2
9 However, as it is written:

“What no eye has seen,
what no ear has heard,
and what no human mind has conceived”—
the things God has prepared for those who love him—

10 these are the things God has revealed to us by his Spirit.

The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God.
11 For who knows a person’s thoughts except their own spirit within them? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.
12 What we have received is not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may understand what God has freely given us.

13 This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom
but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words


14 The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit.





Of course, you don't think the Bible is logical at all. :shrug:
 
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OlNate said:
PoS, I've already answered you on that subject, and asked nicely if we could return to the topic at hand. If you are unable to do that, I'm afraid I'll simply have to assume you have nothing further to say on it, and continue talking with other people in this thread. If I'm honest, I do not feel comfortable talking to you when you're so obviously upset, and feel like maybe you could use a break before continuing. The threats and insults make good conversation difficult.

Thank you for understanding. I look forward to continuing our discussion when you've calmed down. :)
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Ah so its back to the trolling again. Now youre claiming I am upset when Im not. Stop lying.

Elvira said:
And to think he has the audacity to come in accusing others of doing the attacking...ya can't make this stuff up...lol...
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Yeah, all his dancing around is so silly its funny :lol:
 
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Moderator's Warning:
Closing this thread to get y'alls attention.
 
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Moderator's Warning:
This is the only chance you all will get to move past accusations of trolling, threats, talking about moderators and baiting each other.

Return to the topic, which is not each other. If you see a violation, report it, don't discuss it.

Do not quote and reply to any post that violates this warning.

Thread bans, at the least, will be forthcoming for those who cannot abide by this warning.
 
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PoS said:
What do you mean by spirit?
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What is the indwelling of the Holy Spirit?


The indwelling of the Holy Spirit is the action by which God takes up permanent residence in the body of a believer in Jesus Christ.
In the Old Testament, the Spirit would come and go from the saints, empowering them for service but not necessarily remaining with them (see Judges 15:14; 1 Chronicles 12:18; Psalm 51:11; Ezekiel 11:5).
Jesus revealed to His disciples the new role the Spirit of Truth would play in their lives: “He lives with you and will be in you” (John 14:17). The apostle Paul wrote, “Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have from God, and that you are not your own? For you are bought with a price; therefore glorify God in your body” (1 Corinthians 6:19–20).

These verses are telling us that the believer in Jesus Christ has the third Person of the Trinity, the Holy Spirit, living in him.

Today, there is no Jewish temple in Jerusalem, and the animal sacrifices have ceased. The believer in Christ has become the inner sanctum of God the Holy Spirit, as the believer has been sanctified and forgiven by the blood of Jesus Christ (Ephesians 1:7). The believer in Christ becomes the habitation of the Holy Spirit of God.
In fact, Scripture also says that the believer is indwelt spiritually by Christ (Colossians 1:27) and by God the Father (1 John 4:15)—the Trinity is involved.
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https://www.gotquestions.org/indwelling-of-the-Holy-Spirit.html


Now, don't let the last sentence confuse you.
Check out the given verses and you'll see it just simply means God dwells in you
(because God=Jesus=Spirit).



Romans 8

9 You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ.

10 But if Christ is in you, then even though your body is subject to death because of sin, the Spirit gives life because of righteousness.

11 And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies because of his Spirit who lives in you.





Christ in you = God in you = the Spirit in you.







How do you know that the trinity isnt a false teaching made up by human beings?
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You struggling with logic? Why don't you review my responses to you.
 
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tosca1 said:
:shock:

I was repeating what the Bible says.


1 Cor 2
9 However, as it is written:

“What no eye has seen,
what no ear has heard,
and what no human mind has conceived”—
the things God has prepared for those who love him—

10 these are the things God has revealed to us by his Spirit.

The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God.
11 For who knows a person’s thoughts except their own spirit within them? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.
12 What we have received is not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may understand what God has freely given us.

13 This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom
but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words


14 The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit.





Of course, you don't think the Bible is logical at all. :shrug:
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I wrote a longer response to this but it got canned because the thread was closed.

Short version:
We are discussing the trinity. We have a god that fathered himself so he could actually die (god can die???) for the sins of that god's creation. Plus, the son that god fathered was always part of god, even before the creation and during the time the son was on earth preaching and ultimately dying.

I think that takes faith to buy.

The verses you quoted only talk about god and his spirit.

(sorry for how terse this is. Typing is painful for me a lot of the time.)
 
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<alt>doxygen said:
I wrote a longer response to this but it got canned because the thread was closed.

Short version:
We are discussing the trinity. We have a god that fathered himself so he could actually die (god can die???) for the sins of that god's creation. Plus, the son that god fathered was always part of god, even before the creation and during the time the son was on earth preaching and ultimately dying.
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Yes, God can die.....if He wants to.

He had chosen to die for us......because, His dying for us served a purpose.


Now, you should ask the logical question: Did He remain dead?
 
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Trinitarianism does seem to be an invention.
 
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PoS said:
How do you know that the trinity isnt a false teaching made up by human beings?
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What really nails it down as false for me, is how believers assigned a title to a portion of this “trinity” that would have us believe it is somehow this elder authority figure with a crown and a penis. I mean really, “Father”? I’ll go with Occam’s Razor on this one; that sounds suspiciously like something a superstitious culture from antiquity would envision a god being. In the 21st century of the Common Era? Not so much. That's not to say there is no such thing as God. If it exists, why would it be anthropomorphic? That's one of the most telling aspects for me that these beliefs are false.


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