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Your thoughts on Agnostics

C'mon now...everybody sing along...:2razz:

 
Logicman said:
Your talk is cheap. Trot out your best Gospel example of a person, place, or event that has been proven false, or go home with your tail between your legs because you couldn't back up your claims.

Just give me your best ONE (just one - 1) Gospel example. Cite the scripture and your evidence.
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LOL

Yeah, you wait for me to engage in this idiocy.
 
Logicman said:
You're all hat and no cattle.
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Quag said:
Science can provide alternative explanations that do not require the supernatural
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Define "supernatural"...

Quag said:
You claim the resurrection is a supernatural event
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It would be a natural event.

Quag said:
it is up to you to prove it, only you cannot.
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Correct. There is no way to prove or disprove that there is life beyond this life.

I do believe the text recorded in The Bible of the eyewitness accounts, however.

Quag said:
LOGIC that's how it works
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Your post history shows that you are quite illiterate when it comes to logic...
 
gfm7175 said:
Your post history shows that you are quite illiterate when it comes to logic...
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Nothing is more illogical than believing in the invisible man in the sky.
 
noonereal said:
Nothing is more illogical than believing in the invisible man in the sky.
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Nothing is more illogical than believing this is all there is...;)
 
Logicman said:
You're not a fair arbiter of the truth. So don't bother me with your anti-Christianity nonsense.
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That avoidance is what would be expected from someone who has not actually read the books that they are promoting, or realizes the weakness and can not defend the position.
 
jmotivator said:
Not necessarily true. Does knowledge only exist when it can be attached a physical object? Can you have knowledge of yourself as a person in ways that are never actually spoken of demonstrated? Clearly, in my experience, the answer is yes. I possess a great deal of knowledge about myself that I do not share... that knowledge exists without a material demonstrable manifestation. In that same way I have knowledge about God.. most of it defies my vocabulary to even explain.
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Heck, you might not even be ABLE to share it, since we all experience life a little bit differently from each other. Plus, I can't look into your mind, nor can you look into mine (we can't access each other's "first person perspective").

Maybe Cephus doesn't have any knowledge about God, but that doesn't mean that I don't have any knowledge about God. I've had prayers directly rejected and accepted by God. Those rejections and acceptions have taught me how to properly pray to God.
 
noonereal said:
You wasted time and money with a useless storybook major.
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No, he didn't.

noonereal said:
I get it, like the young girl who is enthralled with her Barbie and Ken set you love to talk about it and "play" with your tales.

Leave it where it belongs as the child does.
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Bulverism Fallacy.
 
noonereal said:
WTF does this even mean?

Clue, you don't even know what you mean.
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Well, in her defense, what becomes of our energy once it is transferred out of our lifeless bodies? Where does it go?


OM
 
jmotivator said:
Not necessarily true. Does knowledge only exist when it can be attached a physical object? Can you have knowledge of yourself as a person in ways that are never actually spoken of demonstrated? Clearly, in my experience, the answer is yes. I possess a great deal of knowledge about myself that I do not share... that knowledge exists without a material demonstrable manifestation. In that same way I have knowledge about God.. most of it defies my vocabulary to even explain.
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Note I said "demonstrably". No one can DEMONSTRATE that they have any knowledge of any god, period. They might think they do. They might believe they do. But they can't prove that they do to anyone else.
 
Omega Man said:
Well, in her defense, what becomes of our energy once it is transferred out of our lifeless bodies? Where does it go?


OM
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LOL, seriously?

You really don't understand how we decompose?

All these religious threads are inane. I honestly do not understand why they are allowed.
 
noonereal said:
WTF does this even mean?

Clue, you don't even know what you mean.
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I know exactly what I mean...so sorry it was way over your head...
 
noonereal said:
LOL, seriously?

You really don't understand how we decompose?

All these religious threads are inane. I honestly do not understand why they are allowed.
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So why are you here?
 
Dragonfly said:
Some people will, at times, use the term "agnostic" in a derisive fashion.

Why is that?

When you hear someone claim to be agnostic what's your reaction to that, and why?
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When I hear "agnostic" i hear "someone who has the humility to understand that they don't know everything and therefore takes the most logical position."
 
noonereal said:
LOL, seriously?

You really don't understand how we decompose?
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I didn't mention anything about decomposition.

noonereal said:
All these religious threads are inane. I honestly do not understand why they are allowed.
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Ah yes, good old fashioned intolerance. I loathe religion as well, but I can coexist peacefully with it.


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noonereal said:
Nothing is more illogical than believing in the invisible man in the sky.
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So you can prove that God doesn't exist?! Well, by all means, the floor is yours... ;)

But to address your point about logic, it actually IS logical to believe in God. It is also logical to NOT believe in God. It is also logical to believe that God's existence, at this present time, cannot be known either way.

This is because circular argumentation, in and of itself, is NOT a logical fallacy. It is actually logically valid reasoning. It only becomes a logical fallacy if one tries to prove that circular reasoning. This is typically referred to as being a "fundamentalist" of a particular religion.

Your believing that there is no God is just as much of a religion as my believing that there is a God.
 
Omega Man said:
I didn't mention anything about decomposition.



Ah yes, good old fashioned intolerance. I loathe religion as well, but I can coexist peacefully with it.


OM
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Kudos....and gratitude.
 
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