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    Re: To Believe or Not To Believe

    Quote Originally Posted by Obscurity View Post
    And yet it has been promoted in this "Christian" nation for centuries. It is an odious, filthy practice. Shall I elaborate on the immorality of a book that condones and gives instructions on how to OWN HUMAN BEINGS as property?
    Shall you stop blaming god for what man does?
    "For God “subjected all things under his feet.” But when he says that ‘all things have been subjected,’ it is evident that this does not include the One who subjected all things to him." 1 Corinthians 15:27

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    Re: To Believe or Not To Believe

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvira View Post
    Shall you stop blaming god for what man does?
    I reject the assertion your god exists. I reject all biblical claims of the truth, and dismiss them as the folklore of the time.
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    Re: To Believe or Not To Believe

    Quote Originally Posted by Obscurity View Post
    I reject the assertion your god exists. I reject all biblical claims of the truth, and dismiss them as the folklore of the time.
    Then man is most certainly to blame, huh...
    "For God “subjected all things under his feet.” But when he says that ‘all things have been subjected,’ it is evident that this does not include the One who subjected all things to him." 1 Corinthians 15:27

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    Re: To Believe or Not To Believe

    Quote Originally Posted by Angel View Post
    One is direct and forthright; the other is ambiguous and equivocating.
    What is "X". Flesh it out for us.
    Should I go with my gut? Should I use a rake?

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    Re: To Believe or Not To Believe

    Quote Originally Posted by Angel View Post
    I Lack Belief" Atheists are not denying the existence of my generic God; they are rejecting the Christian concept of God (without rejecting it of course) and calling themselves atheists. They're not atheists. They're AINOs.
    You are wrong. Atheism is the lack of belief in god(s). This specifically means any god(s), generic or otherwise. Your generic god does not hold a position protected from atheism's lack of belief. Since the existence of even a generic god can only be believed in and not known, like the existence of rutabagas, it follow that atheism is a lack of such belief. Atheism deals narrowly with that one thing and one thing only.

    For those who refuse to distinguish between gods and rutabagas no amount of explanation of atheism will suffice.

    Why is it called idealism rather than the belief in the proposition that generic material does not exist?

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    Re: To Believe or Not To Believe

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvira View Post
    Shall you stop blaming god for what man does?
    As soon as you stop giving god credit for only certain things in order to make it look good.

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    Re: To Believe or Not To Believe

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvira View Post
    Then man is most certainly to blame, huh...
    I reject your book and your god, and I reject all those claims about the book and the god; it is simply nonsense, and it has absolutely no support to be true, and even if it did, I would wish it weren't true.
    Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

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    Re: To Believe or Not To Believe

    Quote Originally Posted by devildavid View Post
    As soon as you stop giving god credit for only certain things in order to make it look good.
    God gets credit for good things. He is exculpated from massacres, condoning slavery - which, if the bible is the word of god, he absolutely, explicitly does not only condone it, but created a manual on how to do it - the Christians of this nation are lunch line, cherry picking bigots that overvalue one of their faux sins for the others. It's absurd.
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    Re: To Believe or Not To Believe

    Quote Originally Posted by Obscurity View Post
    I reject your book and your god, and I reject all those claims about the book and the god; it is simply nonsense, and it has absolutely no support to be true, and even if it did, I would wish it weren't true.
    That's nice...so man is to blame, huh...
    "For God “subjected all things under his feet.” But when he says that ‘all things have been subjected,’ it is evident that this does not include the One who subjected all things to him." 1 Corinthians 15:27

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    Re: To Believe or Not To Believe

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvira View Post
    That's nice...so man is to blame, huh...
    Yes, Man is to blame, because I reject the assertion god exists to be blamed.

    See how that works?

    For you though, if you believe the bible to be true, then you have to blame god.

    GOD condones slavery in your bible.
    Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

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