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[W:70]Science is Santa

Quag said:
Our disagreements are simple.
You are dishonest, I am not
You dont understand logic, I do
You make claims you cannot support, I do not
You refuse to answer question, I do not

Become honest, learn logic and answer questions and at least try to back up your claims then we can get along nicely
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You forgot the most important difference: you're full of ****, and I'm not.
 
devildavid said:
So that means being an atheist is spiritual.

There is no human life without a human being. Do you know what is required to be one? Are all spirits human beings? Does anything living have a spirit?
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Ecery living thing is inspirited, and maybe everything period.
 
Angel said:
You forgot the most important difference: you're full of ****, and I'm not.
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if by **** You mean integrity yeah I am you however just spout BS
 
Angel said:
Ecery living thing is inspirited, and maybe everything period.
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Can you support that claim or are you just gonna divert with insults instead of dealing with the fact that you cant?
 
devildavid said:
So that means being an atheist is spiritual.

There is no human life without a human being. Do you know what is required to be one? Are all spirits human beings? Does anything living have a spirit?
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If being a human being is spiritual, and if being an atheist is being a human being, then being an atheist is spiritual; but before you wet yourself over this, remember that being a salmon or being a rutabaga is spiritual as well.
 
Quag said:
Angel said:
Every living thing is inspirited, and maybe everything period.
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Can you support that claim or are you just gonna divert with insults instead of dealing with the fact that you cant?
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You forfeited the right to engage me in discussion a thousand incivilities ago, and I only quoted you here so that I could correct the typo in my earlier post and repeat its claim in a larger font and bolded because it is so important.

Every living thing is inspirited, and maybe everything period.

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Angel said:
You forfeited the right to engage me in discussion a thousand incivilities ago, and I only quoted you here so that I could correct the typo in my earlier post and repeat its claim in a larger font and bolded because it is so important.

Every living thing is inspirited, and maybe everything period.

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Bolding your claim isn't supporting your claim But then we already know you dont do logic
So no attempt to support your claim just insults

Why am I not surprised
 
Cephus said:
And there's no evidence that spirits are real, so there is that.
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Perchance you possess a mind. Mind is soul is spirit. Evidence may await you in your own private personal experience. Check it out.
 
Angel said:
Perchance you possess a mind. Mind is soul is spirit. Evidence may await you in your own private personal experience. Check it out.
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He has a brain. Mind is not soul is not spirit. Private personal fantasies are nice, but mean nothing beyond how they make one feel. They are not experiences.
 
Quag said:
Bolding your claim isn't supporting your claim But then we already know you dont do logic
So no attempt to support your claim just insults

Why am I not surprised
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He has the nerve to accuse you of incivilities. He insults on a hair trigger. What a blatant hypocrite.

Maybe he flushes spirit.
 
devildavid said:
He has a brain. Mind is not soul is not spirit. Private personal fantasies are nice, but mean nothing beyond how they make one feel. They are not experiences.
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Tale your reductive materialism and shove it. It's old hat. And unjustified.
 
devildavid said:
He has the nerve to accuse you of incivilities. He insults on a hair trigger. What a blatant hypocrite.

Maybe he flushes spirit.
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He insults people when they ask him questions he cant answer. He also insults people when they dont blindly accept the BS he is spewing.
But what else does the TINA have?
 
Angel said:
Tale your reductive materialism and shove it. It's old hat. And unjustified.
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Says the physical being using a physical device to post on a physical forum. Next time, send your rude reply from your mind to mine and demonstrate the great power of the non material world you fantasize about.
 
devildavid said:
Says the physical being using a physical device to post on a physical forum. Next time, send your rude reply from your mind to mine and demonstrate the great power of the non material world you fantasize about.
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You confuse the medium with the message.
 
Zyzinger!!!
(Internet version of a musical sting.)
 
devildavid said:
He has a brain. Mind is not soul is not spirit. Private personal fantasies are nice, but mean nothing beyond how they make one feel. They are not experiences.
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This post of yours is incoherent. Don't pollute.
 
devildavid said:
Says the physical being using a physical device to post on a physical forum. Next time, send your rude reply from your mind to mine and demonstrate the great power of the non material world you fantasize about.
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zyzygy said:
Telepathy fail!!!!
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Zyzinger!!!
(Internet version of a musical sting.)
(( Played on an autographed stratocaster by the Flemish rock star himself!))
(((Shhh)))

devildavid said:
The message should be easy to back up if the mind is what you claim it is.
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Although your pal zyzygy's post makes a strong case against the existence of mind, if one is not communicating with another mind when one communicates with devildavid, why should one bother with your 'bot posts?
 
Re: Science is Santa

devildavid said:
And the meaning is made up nonsense. It is a concept Jung invented in his mind, not that has ever been observed.
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"The Authority of Ignorance" by David E. Newman.
A quick read!
Kindle the Soul
 
Re: Science is Santa

Angel said:
"The Authority of Ignorance" by David E. Newman.
A quick read!
Kindle the Soul
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20 pages into this pointless thread you still refuse to even attempt an answer
Define what you mean by spirit.
Can you show this spirit to exist?
Can it exist without a living person? If so how? If not why not?
 
And the topic is...

Angel said:
Science is the New Santa Claus

This thread was immediately inspired by the following post:

See OP@#1 if interested
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I don't wish to single out Pedestrian; his post was just timely and handy.

I've been reading silly posts like his -- from materialists, scientific naturalists, atheists, scientismatists and intellectual slackers -- for ten years.
It's high time someone called them on this baloney.

Science has cultural importance, to be sure, but it ain't ALL THAT.
After anesthesia and antibiotics and a few other medical scientific developments, nothing science tells us or gives us is of any importance in any ultimate sense.

That bears repeating:
Nothing science tells us or gives us is of any importance in any ultimate sense

Science by and large gives us TOYS.

Techno Toys.

That's why some of us love science so much.

Science is Santa Claus.

So we all had better not pout, we'd better not shout,
we'd better not cry, and we all know why


Whereas...

Poetry, Art, Music, and Religion give us much more than science

Poetry, Art, Music, and Religion give us an understanding of the human condition

Poetry, Art, Music, and Religion give us values

Poetry, Art, Music, and Religion give us a reason to live

Poetry, Art, Music, and Religion are of real importance to humanity


Science gives us nothing of value

Science gives us toys

Science is Santa


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Angel said:
Zyzinger!!!
(Internet version of a musical sting.)
(( Played on an autographed stratocaster by the Flemish rock star himself!))
(((Shhh)))


Although your pal zyzygy's post makes a strong case against the existence of mind, if one is not communicating with another mind when one communicates with devildavid, why should one bother with your 'bot posts?
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Why are you still using physical means to communicate? Please save bandwidth by using mind to mind non physical communication. Oh ye of little faith.
 
devildavid said:
Why are you still using physical means to communicate? Please save bandwidth by using mind to mind non physical communication. Oh ye of little faith.
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I'm not Flemish nor a rock star. One day he may get something right.
 
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