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[W:658]The Atheist-In-Name-Only

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Angel said:
The Three Stooges without Curly is like militant agnosticism.
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Your subjective opinion is noted Tina
 
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Tim the plumber said:
It is perfectly reasonable to understand and not believe or to understand, use and beleive.

I understand basic physics. The stuff used to work out how to build bridges, ships and jet engines (to a point, entropy and the square root of minus one beat me). I also question it. The space engine that generates a net force without reaction mass says that it is wrong. I don't know how that works.

Doubt is the automatic and inevitable result of looking at the universe with an open and skeptical mind. When you are utterly sure of knowing something the world has a habit if showing it to be wrong. Unlucky.

Just because I undersatand your view does not mean it should not be challenged.
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The space engine , if it isn't a problem with calibration of the actual test (still a good possibility) means that a different model of quantum mechanics would come into favor. While the initial testing has a very small amount of thrust detected, substituent testing failed to produce that effect, so it appears the effect was a measurement error.
 
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Tim the plumber said:
No further evidence that you are running away from the fact that I do fully understand the situation.
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When you get around to putting your money where your mouth is, do let me know...:2razz:
 
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Elvira said:
When you get around to putting your money where your mouth is, do let me know...:2razz:
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First put forward your test then;

we both place $50 with the forum and if I pass your test, I get $75, if I fail you get $75.

The decision to be that of the forum owner.
 
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Tim the plumber said:

First put forward your test then;

we both place $50 with the forum and if I pass your test, I get $75, if I fail you get $75.

The decision to be that of the forum owner.
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Really? It was a figure of speech...leave it to the materialist to take it materialistically...:roll:...I meant when you get around to proving it, let me know...
 
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Elvira said:
Really? It was a figure of speech...leave it to the materialist to take it materialistically...;)...I meant when you get around to proving it, let me know...
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I meant it.

How about you choose how to find out of I actually understad whatever the mystery is and see if I do or don't get it.
 
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Tim the plumber said:

I meant it.

How about you choose how to find out of I actually understad whatever the mystery is and see if I do or don't get it.
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I meant it, too...you know what I believe, I've made no bones about...yet, you prove time and time again you do not understand...it's in your posting history...
 
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Elvira said:
I meant it, too...you know what I believe, I've made no bones about...yet, you prove time and time again you do not understand...it's in your posting history...
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Yet you cannot explain what it is I don't understand.

Either that is because you are not clever enough to explain it or unwilling to do so, or I have missed your explaination. Given that all of us have not seen it and you refuse to say it again I'll go with one of the first two, or you have nothing to explain.
 
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Tim the plumber said:
Yet you cannot explain what it is I don't understand.

Either that is because you are not clever enough to explain it or unwilling to do so, or I have missed your explaination. Given that all of us have not seen it and you refuse to say it again I'll go with one of the first two, or you have nothing to explain.
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As I said, when you can show that you understand...go for it...
 
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Tim the plumber said:
You told me to put my money where my mouth is. Well I am willing how about you?
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I'll take that as a no since you're still beating around the bush...
 
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Elvira said:
I'll take that as a no since you're still beating around the bush...
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I am so confident that I understand that I am happy to put my money where my mouth is.

All you do is evade because you know you have nothing to understand at all.
 
Angel said:
Are "Lack-belief" Atheists capable of belief? Then they should commit to one and stop the shilly-shallying.
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Are atheists human beings?

Now awaiting lame wise ass retort in 1...2...3
 
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Atheism is the lack of belief in a God, or Gods. There is nothing more to it than that.
 
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Logician Man said:
Atheism is the lack of belief in a God, or Gods. There is nothing more to it than that.
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Then baboons are atheists.
And the following true conclusion mat be reached:

All baboons are atheists, and some atheists are baboons.​

Brilliant!
 
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Logician Man said:
Atheism is the lack of belief in a God, or Gods. There is nothing more to it than that.
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I am an atheist, I lack belief.

I know that God does not exist though.
 
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William Rea said:
I am an atheist, I lack belief.

I know that God does not exist though.
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You make atheists of baboons, and baboons of atheists, with this fifty-year-old canard of yours. Look to it.
 
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William Rea said:
I am an atheist, I lack belief.

I know that God does not exist though.
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The 'know that God does not exist is a positive claim and the belief that God does not exist. The lack of belief would not be the 'I know that God does not exist' statement.
 
Angel said:
Then baboons are atheists.
And the following true conclusion mat be reached:

All baboons are atheists, and some atheists are baboons.​

Brilliant!
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Are baboons capable of belief?
 
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Angel said:
You make atheists of baboons, and baboons of atheists, with this fifty-year-old canard of yours. Look to it.
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Since you are arguing against this, then you must believe that baboons have faith in god.
 
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