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Priest at Funeral: 18 Year Old may be kept out of heaven over suicide

Angel said:
Wherefore the need "to communicate effectively with thousands of religious leaders"?
What do thousands of religious leaders have to do with one impolitic priest?
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The temptation to kick people when they're down, at there most vulnerable moments should be discouraged.
 
JBG said:
The temptation to kick people when they're down, at there most vulnerable moments should be discouraged.
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Sending a message, yes? And the message is what? Be more sensitive to the needs of the bereaved? Yes?
The family is calling for the removal of the priest from his post. Would this be part of your message too?
 
Angel said:
Sending a message, yes? And the message is what? Be more sensitive to the needs of the bereaved? Yes?
The family is calling for the removal of the priest from his post. Would this be part of your message too?
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In this case yes. Unless the priest can demonstrate that it was a momentary insensitivity. Normally I am not big on sensitivity. But death is very different.
 
JBG said:
Parents say priest told mourners that son may be kept out of heaven over suicide: report

A priest laid it right between the eyes at a funeral, to the mourners as well as to the parents; the 18 year old youth, a Straight A student, who committed suicide was not going go to heaven. I am uncertain whether the priest had any control over the matter, but apparently, it does not matter how the person lived their life or what drove them to the point of desperation.

Most of the leaders in my particular religion, thankfully, believe that the right question to ask is not whether the person is going to heaven or down below, but what kind of life they lived, and who they've helped, in the living world. But to me, this is no way to comfort mourners. It is a public shaming, and why?

https://www.foxnews.com/us/parents-want-priests-whop-presided-over-sons-funeral-removed
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There are only two people who can say with any certainty about the afterlife.
Themselves and God.
No one else knows a damned thing.
This guy was being a prick.
Rather than comfort, he decided to bring more pain to those left behind.

This is what happens when religious dogma replaces compassion.
 
JBG said:
Parents say priest told mourners that son may be kept out of heaven over suicide: report

A priest laid it right between the eyes at a funeral, to the mourners as well as to the parents; the 18 year old youth, a Straight A student, who committed suicide was not going go to heaven. I am uncertain whether the priest had any control over the matter, but apparently, it does not matter how the person lived their life or what drove them to the point of desperation.

Most of the leaders in my particular religion, thankfully, believe that the right question to ask is not whether the person is going to heaven or down below, but what kind of life they lived, and who they've helped, in the living world. But to me, this is no way to comfort mourners. It is a public shaming, and why?

https://www.foxnews.com/us/parents-want-priests-whop-presided-over-sons-funeral-removed
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  • Though it remains for you, me and others to someday discover in fact what is the existential truth about whether the boy, his soul, whatever...can or cannot go to Heaven or Hell. Obviously different faith-based belief systems have differing views on what be the existential truth of the matter.
  • I'm sure such a pronouncement isn't consoling to adherents of the faith-based belief system to which the boy and/or his parents ascribe and who cared about the boy. Be that as it may, the boy's having committed suicide makes clear he didn't care enough about whatever his (his parents?) faith-based belief system says on the matter of his/his soul's destiny in the way of his suicide.
  • As for the questions one may ask, well, one may as well ask whatever questions one wants; however, to the extent the answer(s) to them tell of what happens to the boy/his soul after his suicide, one isn't going to receive a definitive answer, but depending on "whom" one asks, one may, indeed most likely will, receive an answer one likes better than the other answers one may receive.
 
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