In plain English, you cannot disprove the existence of God....
You can throw a wrench into the Christian belief system by showing that there's no correlation between prayer and desired outcome
That doesn't prove the absolute non-existence of some form of supreme being...or even any of the other religions in human history
...or you could just Google "How does prayer work?"
What did your Google search come up with ?
...again, have you tried Googling? Are you actually a seeker of "this knowledge"?
Again, can you enlighten us all on your own search results with regard to the mechanics of how prayers work ?
...I have never considered this. What do you think?
Did you not try a Google search ?
Do you not know?
Are prayers a mystery to you ?
...I'd say that you need to begin with the understanding that we are able to conceive only in part and through our own human eyes and experience of who God is. Have a little Alexander Pope (who also says in Essay of Man "Presume not God to span/The proper study of mankind is man")...
In plain English, you know nothing about how prayers work
Your Google search failed I take it
...Or perhaps a bit of Psalm 100: "It is He who has made us, and not we ourselves."
Be careful when quoting the Psalms...there are a few gems in there that you may not like
A Google search ?
...I've never heard this nonsense in my life. What a strange notion that the only "proper" prayer is/can be offered in church. It certainly runs counter to "Pray, pray without ceasing."...
So a quick prayer to god during pauses in a phone conversation, works just as well as a lengthy prayer session in a church ?
The duration of an individual's prayer bears no correlation to the desired outcome ?
In that case, an over-night vigil is a waste of time...a quick 5 second prayer has equal chance of gaining a positive divine response.
...Why, yes. :roll: And practice makes perfect....
There are skill levels in prayer ???
WOW
The ancients thought this of course....you had to know the right kind of animal to sacrifice for a given help request to the gods....
Then only the most skilled priests could interpret the gods reply as they examined the intestines of the poor sacrificial beast.
There's even a Prayer for dummies guide:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0050C47E8/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1
...there are different kinds of help. And I'll repeat myself: Trust God, but lock your car/Be a "wise virgin" rather than a foolish one....
God helps those who help themselves...
So no need for prayer...call 911 and have the medics dislodge whatever it is that's choking you. Then thank god that the medics arrived. God gets all the credit.
If the medics fail to arrive in time of course...god moves in mysterious ways.
...you've demonstrated repeatedly in this thread that you don't understand even the nature of prayer, so my guess is that you don't have much practice in it....
None
Are you saying you do ?
How many times was your conversation two-way ?
...this isn't necessarily an either/or dilemma. I trust scientific evidence, including archaeological and historical evidence. This has nothing to do with my complete confidence in God and His working out His will. No conflict at all.
How do you know what god's will is ?
It seems to be simply "whatever happens".
