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[W:973] Put a Fork in American Christianity

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Re: Put a Fork in American Christianity

When you have a prominent Evangelical leader or pastor criticizing other prominent Evangelical leaders and pastors for positions taken on issues that are nuanced and complicated and dividing opinion all across America, you can pretty much tell that his ministry is overcooked.
 
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It's done.




Good!

Christianity put a fork in itself.
Between deranged RW evangelicals and fundamentalists giving mulligans for anything and everything Trump does, and the Catholic church racking one molestation scandal after another, and polygamous FLDS running child sex cults with impunity in Utah and Arizona, I think it is safe to say that they've doomed themselves.

That doesn't mean that there aren't any compassionate and values oriented Christians, but they are a dwindling minority.
It's a shame.
 
Re: Put a Fork in American Christianity

It's done.




Good!

Darn... I was a Christian... But since it's over with, maybe I'll try Hinduism... Maybe that one will stick around a bit longer... ;) ;)
 
Re: Put a Fork in American Christianity

Christianity put a fork in itself.
Between deranged RW evangelicals and fundamentalists giving mulligans for anything and everything Trump does, and the Catholic church racking one molestation scandal after another, and polygamous FLDS running child sex cults with impunity in Utah and Arizona, I think it is safe to say that they've doomed themselves.

That doesn't mean that there aren't any compassionate and values oriented Christians, but they are a dwindling minority.
It's a shame.

Where I live Christianity is in its death throes.
 
Re: Put a Fork in American Christianity

American christianity has always lacked morals

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Re: Put a Fork in American Christianity

Darn... I was a Christian... But since it's over with, maybe I'll try Hinduism... Maybe that one will stick around a bit longer... ;) ;)

What's the one where the guy throws his hammer?
 
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American christianity has always lacked morals

Nonsense. If Christians in America were living in the gutter the left wouldn't hate us, but they do, because we rain on their illicit, godless agenda.
 
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Nonsense. If Christians in America were living in the gutter the left wouldn't hate us, but they do, because we rain on their illicit, godless agenda.

Then they'd hate us for reminding them of themselves.
 
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Christianity will be around in America long after you've croaked.

A clown show version of it, perhaps, will survive.

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Nonsense. If Christians in America were living in the gutter the left wouldn't hate us, but they do, because we rain on their illicit, godless agenda.
It's the gutter stuff that Christians do which makes us hate them.

priest sex scandal

Why are so many evangelical Christian leaders caught in scandals?

'Pro-Life' Christian Who Urged Abortions for Ex-Wife and Mistress Is Running Again

Top 5 Anti-Gay Ministers Accused Of Being Homosexual


That's why no one takes this Christian garbage serious anymore.
 
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Yeah, I would call that rather hypocritical...those who scream loudest...
 
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Yeah, I would call that rather hypocritical...those who scream loudest...

The irony is that if they didn't scream, more people would give them a second a look. I know that I would not be opposed to joining a rational band of people to celebrate life, love and with whom I maybe could fantasize of an after life. But...

Given the current band of merry men in charge of that message, I would cringe at the idea of spending eternity with any one of them.
 
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lol...it's almost as if they are doing this intentionally.

We're sure that Sandy Rios didn't intend it this way, but this Bible passage she read at #VVS18 seems to describe Trump pretty accurately.

"Must See" video at the link.

https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/status/1043498384378740741


My heart goes out to all the Christians who continue to support Trump. I can only imagine how heartbreaking it will be for them to discover they’ve been catfished by the Antichrist.

https://twitter.com/thistallawkgirl/status/1043519331475378176

Not me, Honey. They brought this onto themselves.
 
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The irony is that if they didn't scream, more people would give them a second a look. I know that I would not be opposed to joining a rational band of people to celebrate life, love and with whom I maybe could fantasize of an after life. But...

Given the current band of merry men in charge of that message, I would cringe at the idea of spending eternity with any one of them.

Hmmm...don't think they will be...Matthew 6:1-8...
 
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Hmmm...don't think they will be...Matthew 6:1-8...

So very true...

One of my favorite parts of all the books right here.

5 “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. 7 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.

9 “This, then, is how you should pray:

“‘Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name,
10 your kingdom come,
your will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven.
11 Give us today our daily bread.
12 And forgive us our debts,
as we also have forgiven our debtors.
13 And lead us not into temptation,[a]
but deliver us from the evil one.

14 For if you forgive other people when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. 15 But if you do not forgive others their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.
 
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So very true...

One of my favorite parts of all the books right here.

Mine too...many people pray this prayer without understanding what it is they're actually praying for...

The #1 thing is "hallowed be your name," or "let your name be sanctified" when they won't even use His name...

name: The personal name of God, represented by the four Hebrew letters יהוה (YHWH) and commonly rendered “Jehovah” in English. In the New World Translation, the name occurs 6,979 times in the Hebrew Scriptures and 237 times in the Christian Greek Scriptures. (For information on the use of the divine name in the Christian Greek Scriptures, see App. A5 and App. C.) In the Bible, the term “name” at times also stands for the person himself, his reputation, and all that he declares himself to be.​—Re 3:4, ftn.

be sanctified: Or “be held sacred; be treated as holy.” This is a petition that all creation, including both humans and angels, hold God’s name holy. The petition also includes the thought that God take action to sanctify himself by clearing his name of the reproach that has been heaped on it ever since the rebellion of the first human pair in the garden of Eden.

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/b/r1/lp-e/nwtsty/E/2018/40/6#s=9&study=discover&v=40:6:3

The #2 thing is "your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven."

In the model prayer, Jesus next petitioned God: “Let your Kingdom come.” How does the ransom relate to the Kingdom of God? The ransom makes possible the gathering of 144,000 to serve as kings and priests with Christ in heaven. (Rev. 5:9, 10; 14:1) Jesus and his corulers, who together make up God’s Kingdom, will administer the benefits of the ransom to obedient mankind over a period of a thousand years. The earth will be transformed into a paradise, and all faithful humans will be lifted to perfection, fully uniting the heavenly and earthly parts of God’s family. (Rev. 5:13; 20:6) Jesus will crush the serpent’s head and erase from the universe all traces of Satan’s rebellion.​—Gen. 3:15.

Jehovah is the Creator. Once he gives the word for something to happen, it is as good as done. (Isa. 55:11) He will not allow Satan’s rebellion to derail His purpose for mankind. From the beginning, it was Jehovah’s will for the earth to be filled with the perfect children of Adam and Eve. (Gen. 1:28) Had Adam and Eve died childless, God’s purpose to fill the earth with their offspring would have come to nothing. Thus, after Adam and Eve sinned, Jehovah allowed them to have children. Through the ransom, God gives all who exercise faith the opportunity to reach perfection and live forever. Jehovah loves people, and it is his will that obedient humans live the way he intended.

What about the billions of people who died without ever having an opportunity to know and serve Jehovah? The ransom makes possible the resurrection of the dead. Our loving heavenly Father will bring them back to life and give them an opportunity to learn about his purpose and to gain everlasting life. (Acts 24:15) Jehovah wants people to live, not die. As the Source of life, he becomes the Father of everyone who is resurrected. (Ps. 36:9) How appropriate, therefore, that Jesus taught us to pray: “Our Father in the heavens.” (Matt. 6:9) Jehovah has given Jesus an important share in resurrecting the dead. (John 6:40, 44) In Paradise, Jesus will fulfill his role as “the resurrection and the life.”​—John 11:25.

Jehovah’s generosity is not limited to a few privileged people, for Jesus said: “Whoever does the will of God, this one is my brother and sister and mother.” (Mark 3:35) It is God’s will that a numberless “great crowd” from all nations and tribes and tongues become his worshippers. Those who exercise faith in Christ’s ransom and who do the will of God can be among those who shout: “Salvation we owe to our God, who is seated on the throne, and to the Lamb.”​—Rev. 7:9, 10.

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2017287#h=15:0-21:478
 
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Christianity will be around in America long after you've croaked.

Depends, if you guys keep tipping like this, you might be the first ones to croak.

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You're not being "persecuted for your faith," you just keep acting like assholes.
 
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Mine too...many people pray this prayer without understanding what it is they're actually praying for...

The #1 thing is "hallowed be your name," or "let your name be sanctified" when they won't even use His name...



https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/b/r1/lp-e/nwtsty/E/2018/40/6#s=9&study=discover&v=40:6:3

The #2 thing is "your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven."



https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2017287#h=15:0-21:478

It's a beautiful mantra, meaning you can just repeat it until you fall asleep or begin feeling relaxed. It does not ask for anything, it's simple and easy to remember, and I firmly believe it works to resolve whatever inner demon torments at the moment. I think of it as the "negative thoughts begone" prayer.
 
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