Mormon says he was excommunicated for accusing church leaders of inappropriate sexual questions

Rogue Valley · Sep 17, 2018

Mormon says he was excommunicated for accusing church leaders of inappropriate sexual questions

Former Mormon Bishop Sam Young

9/16/18
A Mormon who led a campaign criticizing the church’s practice of allowing closed-door, one-on-one interviews of youth by lay leaders that sometimes included sexual questions has been kicked out of the faith following a disciplinary hearing. Sam Young read a verdict letter for the first time Sunday that had been delivered to him after last week’s hearing with church leaders in Houston. Young and his supporters say the interviews where youth are asked if they’re following the law of chastity led to inappropriate conversations and shaming. Young called his excommunication “a supreme disappointment” and was emotional at a news conference attended by about 100 of his supporters. “The whistleblower has been kicked out,” he said. “But they have no power to excommunicate me from the cause of protecting children and protecting the healing of my friends. For our children’s sake, this whistleblower is not going to stop roaring.” The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints doesn’t comment on disciplinary hearings to respect people’s privacy. While not a lifelong ban, excommunication is a rare move that amounts to the harshest punishment available for a church member. Young becomes the third high-profile Mormon who led protests about church policy to be excommunicated in recent years.

One of the many reasons why I have grown to detest organized religion.

Davey · Sep 17, 2018

Rogue Valley said:
Mormon says he was excommunicated for accusing church leaders of inappropriate sexual questions

Former Mormon Bishop Sam Young

One of the many reasons why I have grown to detest organized religion.

Mormons are no more Christian than Jehovah Witness's are. Not that Christians are exempt from this type of thing because we have our sick perverts as well. Just wanted to take this moment to say Mormons aren't Christian.

As far as organized religion, I dunno want you mean. If you are turning your back on Christ because of the actions of a few, that is not the correct course of action.

If you have never accepted Christ as Lord and Saviour, you gonna go to Hell regardless. Just an FYI

justabubba · Sep 17, 2018

Davey said:
Mormons are no more Christian than Jehovah Witness's are. Not that Christians are exempt from this type of thing because we have our sick perverts as well. Just wanted to take this moment to say Mormons aren't Christian.

what causes Mormons/members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints - and Jehovah's Witnesses - to be found other than practicing Christians?

zyzygy · Sep 17, 2018

justabubba said:
what causes Mormons/members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints - and Jehovah's Witnesses - to be found other than practicing Christians?

Mormons and JW hate Jesus?

AGENT J · Sep 17, 2018

Davey said:
Mormons are no more Christian than Jehovah Witness's are. Not that Christians are exempt from this type of thing because we have our sick perverts as well. Just wanted to take this moment to say Mormons aren't Christian.

As far as organized religion, I dunno want you mean. If you are turning your back on Christ because of the actions of a few, that is not the correct course of action.

If you have never accepted Christ as Lord and Saviour, you gonna go to Hell regardless. Just an FYI

Says who using what facts?
Nobody on this planet has the power to judge if somebody else is christian or not , just an FYI.

Davey · Sep 17, 2018

AGENT J said:
Says who using what facts?
Nobody on this planet has the power to judge if somebody else is christian or not , just an FYI.

Huh? There is a written Word called the Bible. It tell's you how to be saved and what a Christian is. Mormons nor the JW's cut the mustard. There's no power in deducing who is or isn't. It written down in black and white.

AGENT J · Sep 17, 2018

Davey said:
Huh? There is a written Word called the Bible. It tell's you how to be saved and what a Christian is. Mormons nor the JW's cut the mustard. There's no power in deducing who is or isn't. It written down in black and white.

huh what? which fact dont you understand?
thats YOUR opinion on the matter and nothing more. Many people including Christians make the mistake you have and claim certain people or other Christians arent really Christian but its meaningless.. its only thier feelings and not a fact.

Like i said nobody on this planet has the power to judge if somebody is christian or not, that fact wont change based on your feelings, mine or anybody's on this planet :shrug:

Daisy · Sep 17, 2018

Y'all are wasting your time with Mr. Davey...I say let Jehovah God be the judge..usually those who scream the loudest are the biggest transgressors...

justabubba · Sep 17, 2018

Davey said:
Huh? There is a written Word called the Bible. It tell's you how to be saved and what a Christian is. Mormons nor the JW's cut the mustard. There's no power in deducing who is or isn't. It written down in black and white.

then share with us the actual excerpts from the Bible, which excerpts will document your assertion

Davey · Sep 17, 2018

justabubba said:
then share with us the actual excerpts from the Bible, which excerpts will document your assertion

Man in the last three says I have given several detailed accounts in a couple of different threads.

Davey · Sep 17, 2018

Elvira said:
Y'all are wasting your time with Mr. Davey...I say let Jehovah God be the judge..usually those who scream the loudest are the biggest transgressors...

Well if you gonna let Jehovah be the judge then shut up!!

justabubba · Sep 17, 2018

Davey said:
Man in the last three says I have given several detailed accounts in a couple of different threads.

then it should be a simple effort for you to assemble them here
given your certitude, i look forward to reading your Biblical documentation, which has been alleged to support your assertion

Davey · Sep 17, 2018

AGENT J said:
huh what? which fact dont you understand?
thats YOUR opinion on the matter and nothing more. Many people including Christians make the mistake you have and claim certain people or other Christians arent really Christian but its meaningless.. its only thier feelings and not a fact.

Like i said nobody on this planet has the power to judge if somebody is christian or not, that fact wont change based on your feelings, mine or anybody's on this planet :shrug:

Wrong. We sure do have a right to stand up to those who espouse a loyalty to Christ, but in reality they use His name for recruiting purposes. They don't acknowledge Him as Lord and Savior.

Davey · Sep 17, 2018

justabubba said:
then it should be a simple effort for you to assemble them here
given your certitude, i look forward to reading your Biblical documentation, which has been alleged to support your assertion

it would also be real simple for you to go look, respond, and then I will respond to your response.

justabubba · Sep 17, 2018

Davey said:
it would also be real simple for you to go look, respond, and then I will respond to your response.

you know where to look for your words. copy and paste them here
if you fail to do so i can only conclude you are unable to back up your assertions that the Bible will prove your allegations correct

Davey · Sep 17, 2018

zyzygy said:
Mormons and JW hate Jesus?

No, but they use His name to try and tie themselves to mainstream Christianity so they will be more acceptable.

But they lie. Their teaching on Jesus and Salvation and the Word of God, are not consistent with Christian teaching. Kind of makes you wonder why they have to be so deceptive in explaining their beliefs.

Davey · Sep 17, 2018

justabubba said:
you know where to look for your words. copy and paste them here
if you fail to do so i can only conclude you are unable to back up your assertions that the Bible will prove your allegations correct

Yawn.

justabubba · Sep 17, 2018

Davey said:
No, but they use His name to try and tie themselves to mainstream Christianity so they will be more acceptable.

But they lie. Their teaching on Jesus and Salvation and the Word of God, are not consistent with Christian teaching. Kind of makes you wonder why they have to be so deceptive in explaining their beliefs.

speaking of being deceptive ... i continue to await your Biblical posts proving your allegations
or were you making falsehoods about Christ and His followers

Daisy · Sep 17, 2018

Davey said:
No, but they use His name to try and tie themselves to mainstream Christianity so they will be more acceptable.

But they lie. Their teaching on Jesus and Salvation and the Word of God, are not consistent with Christian teaching. Kind of makes you wonder why they have to be so deceptive in explaining their beliefs.

I have been very thorough in explaining my beliefs here so my posts speak for themselves...I think most people realize I believe what the Bible says, Jesus is God's son, and yes, I do accept him as my Divine Savior...I've made that clear many times...

Logician Man · Sep 17, 2018

Davey said:
Wrong. We sure do have a right to stand up to those who espouse a loyalty to Christ, but in reality they use His name for recruiting purposes. They don't acknowledge Him as Lord and Savior.

^^^^^^ 'No true Scotsman Fallacy.'..A great way to lose another religious debate.

Davey · Sep 17, 2018

Logician Man said:
^^^^^^ 'No true Scotsman Fallacy.'..A great way to lose another religious debate.

You seem to always self declare yourself a winner. Are we compensating for lack of in other area's perhaps?

Davey · Sep 17, 2018

Elvira said:
I have been very thorough in explaining my beliefs here so my posts speak for themselves...I think most people realize I believe what the Bible says, Jesus is God's son, and yes, I do accept him as my Divine Savior...I've made that clear many times...

I asked you how you would answer a child (or an adult) how you would answer them if they asked you who Jesus was and how do you get to heaven.

It feel on deaf ears. So no you haven't answered as you claim to have.

How do you differ from mainstream Christianity?

Daisy · Sep 17, 2018

Davey said:
I asked you how you would answer a child (or an adult) how you would answer them if they asked you who Jesus was and how do you get to heaven.

It feel on deaf ears. So no you haven't answered as you claim to have.

How do you differ from mainstream Christianity?

I'll tell you what you told Bubba...go look for my previous posts on the subject...I don't have the time nor the desire to fool with someone like you...

AGENT J · Sep 17, 2018

Davey said:
Wrong. We sure do have a right to stand up to those who espouse a loyalty to Christ, but in reality they use His name for recruiting purposes. They don't acknowledge Him as Lord and Savior.

actually what i said is 100% right and factual.\ hence your inablity to prove otherwise LOL
what you posted here has nothign to do with what i actual said and the fact still remains nobody on this planet has the power to judge if somebody is christian or not :shrug:

if you disagree simply post one fact that proves otherwise

justabubba · Sep 17, 2018

Elvira said:
I'll tell you what you told Bubba...go look for my previous posts on the subject...I don't have the time nor the desire to fool with someone like you...

what he has shown me is an inability to defend his allegation with the Biblical references he insisted existed
his posts should be found worthless

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