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PoS said:
It would actually be nice if all these religious people practiced all that, but they seem to do the opposite. Fancy that.
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So you know every one of them, do you?
 
zyzygy said:
Do you mean in 5 billion years in the future when the Sun will expand and swallow the Earth?
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According to Lord Kelvin, the sun has a life span of no more than 30 million years.
 
marke said:
According to Lord Kelvin, the sun has a life span of no more than 30 million years.
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what before the discovery of fusion in the sun?
 
blarg said:
what before the discovery of fusion in the sun?
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Nuclear fusion is also a theory, just like Kelvin's gravitational contraction was. When men adopted the nuclear fusion theory, they ended up having to invent "neutrinos" which gave them problems for nearly a hundred years until they finally scrapped old ideas about neutrinos and started over with new assumptions.
 
marke said:
According to Lord Kelvin, the sun has a life span of no more than 30 million years.
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That was when he thought that the Sun was made of coal, before nuclear fusion was discovered. Your science is more than a century out of date. I suppose that you think that the Moon is made out of green cheese.
 
marke said:
Nuclear fusion is also a theory, just like Kelvin's gravitational contraction was. When men adopted the nuclear fusion theory, they ended up having to invent "neutrinos" which gave them problems for nearly a hundred years until they finally scrapped old ideas about neutrinos and started over with new assumptions.
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That is hilarious. Neutrinos have been detected.
 
PoS said:
It would actually be nice if all these religious people practiced all that, but they seem to do the opposite. Fancy that.
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Some do...one has to search them out...
 
PoS said:
Science has advanced to explain a lot of things to the point where theyre no longer magic. Religion remains the same- full of outdated beliefs.

Abiogensis is plausible.
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That's a joke. You can't even spell out how the scenario went down, or what came first - the cell walls or the protoplasm.

Even the simplest cell is incredibly complex.

"The technology of the twentieth century has delved into the tiniest particles of life, and has revealed that the cell is the most complex system mankind has ever confronted. Today we know that the cell contains power stations producing the energy to be used by the cell, factories manufacturing the enzymes and hormones essential for life, a databank where all the necessary information about all products to be produced is recorded, complex transportation systems and pipelines for carrying raw materials and products from one place to another, advanced laboratories and refineries for breaking down external raw materials into their usable parts, and specialized cell membrane proteins to control the incoming and outgoing materials. And these constitute only a small part of this incredibly complex system."

https://www.darwinismrefuted.com/molecular_biology_02.html
 
Logicman said:
That's a joke. You can't even spell out how the scenario went down, or what came first - the cell walls or the protoplasm.

Even the simplest cell is incredibly complex.

"The technology of the twentieth century has delved into the tiniest particles of life, and has revealed that the cell is the most complex system mankind has ever confronted. Today we know that the cell contains power stations producing the energy to be used by the cell, factories manufacturing the enzymes and hormones essential for life, a databank where all the necessary information about all products to be produced is recorded, complex transportation systems and pipelines for carrying raw materials and products from one place to another, advanced laboratories and refineries for breaking down external raw materials into their usable parts, and specialized cell membrane proteins to control the incoming and outgoing materials. And these constitute only a small part of this incredibly complex system."

https://www.darwinismrefuted.com/molecular_biology_02.html
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So what? Just because someone claims a cell is complex doesnt immediately default to: "therefore a magical being calling himself Yahweh who existed before time waved his magic wand and created everything."

That's just a non-sequitur
 
marke said:
Nuclear fusion is also a theory, just like Kelvin's gravitational contraction was. When men adopted the nuclear fusion theory, they ended up having to invent "neutrinos" which gave them problems for nearly a hundred years until they finally scrapped old ideas about neutrinos and started over with new assumptions.
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So what keeps the Sun going? Here is your chance of winning a Nobel prize. Share your vast knowledge with us and put science right on the subject.
 
marke said:
Nuclear fusion is also a theory, just like Kelvin's gravitational contraction was. When men adopted the nuclear fusion theory, they ended up having to invent "neutrinos" which gave them problems for nearly a hundred years until they finally scrapped old ideas about neutrinos and started over with new assumptions.
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Wrong! Thermonuclear weapons use a secondary fusion stage that happens to work since the 1950's. The technology for achieving fusion has been done more than half a century ago, it's just that nobody has managed to create a sustained reaction for civilian use.

Good lord, this is like teaching basic science to a bunch of 5 year olds...
 
PoS said:
Wrong! Thermonuclear weapons use a secondary fusion stage that happens to work since the 1950's. The technology for achieving fusion has been done more than half a century ago, it's just that nobody has managed to create a sustained reaction for civilian use.

Good lord, this is like teaching basic science to a bunch of 5 year olds...
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Let us wait for marke's alternative theory of what powers the Sun and H bombs.
 
PoS said:
So what? Just because someone claims a cell is complex doesnt immediately default to: "therefore a magical being calling himself Yahweh who existed before time waved his magic wand and created everything."

That's just a non-sequitur
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Nope. What's the third option besides creator or chance occurrance?

But I do admire your GREAT FAITH - much more than a religious creationist could possibly muster!
 
zyzygy said:
So what keeps the Sun going? Here is your chance of winning a Nobel prize. Share your vast knowledge with us and put science right on the subject.
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I have a theory, just like others do. No more.
 
PoS said:
Wrong! Thermonuclear weapons use a secondary fusion stage that happens to work since the 1950's. The technology for achieving fusion has been done more than half a century ago, it's just that nobody has managed to create a sustained reaction for civilian use.

Good lord, this is like teaching basic science to a bunch of 5 year olds...
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I take it you are not aware of the Neutrino problem, dealt with on Wikipedia under the title "The Neutrino problem?"
 
Logicman said:
Nope. What's the third option besides creator or chance occurrance?

But I do admire your GREAT FAITH - much more than a religious creationist could possibly muster!
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natural selection where arrangements of molecules that can make more of themselves do
 
marke said:
I take it you are not aware of the Neutrino problem, dealt with on Wikipedia under the title "The Neutrino problem?"
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Are you aware that neutrinos have been detected? Not in the expected numbers but detected, showing that the Sun runs on nuclear fusion. What is your theory?
 
blarg said:
natural selection where arrangements of molecules that can make more of themselves do
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No. That's not a third option. Trace it back to the beginning and they're either created, or as you might claim, come about by chance.
 
zyzygy said:
Nuclear fusion is a proven fact. What is your theory? The Sun gets cold at night?
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My theory is that if fusion is the source of the sun's energy, then someone needs to find a way other than the troublesome neutrino to explain the discrepancies in the energy measurements taken from observing the sun.
 
marke said:
My theory is that if fusion is the source of the sun's energy, then someone needs to find a way other than the troublesome neutrino to explain the discrepancies in the energy measurements taken from observing the sun.
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Are you not aware that the problem was solved in 2002?
The three years 2001 to 2003 were the golden years of solar neutrino research. In this period, scientists solved a mystery with which they had been struggling for four decades. The solution turned out to be important for both physics and for astronomy. In this article, I tell the story of those fabulous three years.1

The first two sections summarize the solar neutrino mystery and present the solution that was found in the past three years. The next two sections describe what the solution means for physics and for astronomy. The following sections outline what is left to do in solar neutrino research and give my personal view of why it took more than thirty years to solve the mystery of the missing neutrinos. The last section provides a retrospective impression of the solution.

https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/themes/solving-the-mystery-of-the-missing-neutrinos/


The solar neutrino problem has been settled and the ability of neutrinos to change from one type, or "flavor," to another established directly for the first time by the efforts of the Sudbury Neutrino Observatory (SNO) collaboration.

This finding gives physicists new confidence that they understand how energy is produced in the sun's core and that neutrinos are just as quirky as we thought.
https://www.aps.org/publications/apsnews/200206/sno.cfm
 
That settles it. Shall we get back to Pat Robertson the con man?
 
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